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Error whilst plotting/immediate halt

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  1. Robin Ellis

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    Hello.
    I'm encountering a frequent problem whilst executing my pen plots. The machine is merrily plotting away when it suddenly seems to jam (there is a squealing sound), stops mid-plot and flies into the frame of the plotter, triggering the hard limits.
    This has happened to me now a number of times with different files, though the image is basically the same (parallel lines). Here is a snippet of the serial console at the moment of crash (it's a long file so didn't want to paste it all here).
    Thanks.

    [11:30:36] [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y379.56284 Z-0.1000 ] ok

    [11:30:38] [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y378.90283 Z-0.1000 ] ok

    [11:30:38] [ G1 F40000 X30.0 Y378.90283 Z-0.1000 ] ok

    [11:30:39] [ G1 F40000 X30.0 Y378.24283 Z-0.1000 ] ok

    [11:30:39] [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y378.24283 Z-0.1000 ] ok

    [11:30:40] [ ALARM ] ALARM: 1 - Hard limit triggered. Machine position is likely lost due to sudden and immediate halt. Re-homing is highly recommended. [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ]

    [11:30:40] [ ] ALARM: 1 - Hard limit triggered. Machine position is likely lost due to sudden and immediate halt. Re-homing is highly recommended. [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ]

    [11:30:40] [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ] ALARM:1

    [11:30:40] [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ] [MSG:Reset to continue]

    [11:30:41] [ G1 F40000 X730.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ] ok

    [11:30:41] [ G1 F40000 X30.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ] Grbl 1.1f ['$' for help]

    [11:30:41] [ G1 F40000 X30.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ] [MSG:Check Limits]

    [11:30:41] [ G1 F40000 X30.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ] [MSG:'$H'|'$X' to unlock]

    [11:30:41] [ ] error: 9 - G-code locked out during alarm or jog state [ G1 F40000 X30.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ]<hr>This error may just be a symptom of an earlier event:<br> ALARM: 1 - Hard limit triggered. Machine position is likely lost due to sudden and immediate halt. Re-homing is highly recommended.

    [11:30:41] [ ERROR ] error: 9 - G-code locked out during alarm or jog state [ G1 F40000 X30.0 Y377.58282 Z-0.1000 ]
     
  2. Robin Ellis

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    Seems to be the x axis which is always effected, in case that offers any clues.
     
  3. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Dial back your Max Rate in Grbl settings and try again. If its set too high the motors stall - making the sound you describe
     
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    Ok. I'll try that - strange though that sometimes the plot works fine and other times it stalls.

    Out of curiosity, does the Grbl max rate override the F number in the Gcode file? Currently I have both set to 40000.

    Also, I have had a bit of problem today with homing and the hard limits being triggered even though the head is no where near them. Could this also be the cause somehow?
     
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    The "sometimes" will be in sections long enough to get up to stall speed. Acceleration setting coming into play.

    Max speed is a limit, if F is 6000 and Max Rate is 5000 then it wont ever go faster than 5000. If F is 3000 and Max rate is 5000 then G0 moves will be 5000 and G1/2/3 will be 3000
     
  6. Robin Ellis

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    Thanks. What would be the max limit for the steppers that OB ships with the acro? Mine seem to have a max of 36000 which is rather slow considering I could have it hooked up to a laser. I had been hoping for quicker plotting speeds so maybe a stepper upgrade?

    And how about the homing issue? I've now encountered it twice since starting this thread. The alarm is triggered when it hits the x limit before it's found the y limit. Any help appreciated!
     
  7. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Running Xtension Limits or other switches?

    Could be crosstalk from motor wires to limits wiring. Seperate them apart as a test.

    Speeds: trial and error - our profiles are very Conservative, refer the Grbl wiki for tuning instructions.
     
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    I'm using the OB limits that come with the acro. But ok, I'll do some tests. Thanks again.
     
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