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Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by charles lamb, Sep 24, 2024.

  1. charles lamb

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    Hello, I purchased and was using my Workbee 1510 right before Covid.
    Used it for a handful of projects and had to move.
    I just pulled it back out and have everything set up.
    Powers up, I re-downloaded the Openbuilds controller and CAM.
    I am able to generate G-code, but I can not get the machine to jog or perform functions from the G-code.

    Do I have a software issue? Being as I have not used the machine in some years.
    Installed version- V1.0.376
    Firmware- gnea 1.1f

    When trying to jog the machine it makes a sound like it moved but went back to where it was.
    Any help would be appriciated!!
     
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    Make sure to load a machine profile from CONTROL > Grbl Settings > Select a machine from the list, save and reset / OR/ make sure you have PSU (24v) at the controller
     
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    Peter, thank you soooo much, I know it was something simple I was forgetting.
    Got the machine going, now I just need to figure out setting up my "zero point".
    Hope you have a great evening. Thanks again.
     
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    Jog to. Click Setzero :) or buy a Probe
     
  5. charles lamb

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    Hello, Peter.
    Hope you can help.
    Running my first project ...

    Router plunges into material deeper then I have my passes set at (2mm).
    Basically cutting out the tool path in certain areas.
    But as the job goes on the bit is not low enough to cut into the material at other areas
    Using Openbulds Cam and Control.

    I zeroed out the work coordinates, z axis included.
     
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    I think my problem is setting up the machine Zero point at the Z axis.
     
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    So, after watching the machine run for awhile I noticed
    The Z axis lowers instead of raising when not cutting a part of the image and eccentiall is cutting deeper into the material following along the toolpath.

    Thanks again.
    Chuck
     
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    G0 Z5; move to z-safe height
    Plunges instead of moving up to safe height
     
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    G53 (use machine coordinates system)
    G0 Z-5

    Alex.

    EDIT - should have said that needs to be on one line.
     
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    Alex, I was reading a thread where you were helping a woman named Gina.
    I saw that Z- the router should move down. When I jog mine Z+ moves down.
    What line in the command screen do I need to change? To correct this.
     
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    $3 Direction Invert
     
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    Guys, thanks for your help.
    I read up again on writing G-code as I did not use the machine in several years, that helped.
    I did need to invert the Z-axis, I am using a new laptop and loaded all new software so did not have my old settings.
    Also, found that my Z-axis limit switch is missing the metal tab that makes contact.
    In short the machine was not homing correctly and the Z-axis was inverted.
     
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    Hello Alex and Peter,
    I am scratching my head.
    Still can not get the machine to home properly.
    Z-axis goes up past where it should and Shudders..I have to hit abort at that point.
    What setting would cause this. I tried reducing the travel.
    I know it is a GRBL setting issue, but dont know what one.
     
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    Please post your grbl settings here so we can have a look at them.

    Alex.
     
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    using the troubleshooting tab in CONTROL, make sure that when you press the Z limit switch, the Z box lights up in CONTROL.
    Same for X and Y.
     
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    KeyParameter​
    ValueUtility
    $0Step pulse time, microseconds

    µs
    $1Step idle delay, milliseconds

    ms
    $2Step pulse invert, mask

    mask
    $3Step direction invert, mask
    XNormal
    app-notification
    Reversed
    YNormal
    app-notification
    Reversed
    ZNormal
    app-notification
    Reversed
    $4Invert step enable pin, boolean

    mask/bool
    $5Invert limit pins, boolean/mask

    mask/bool
    $6Invert probe pin, boolean ✗ Disable ✓ Enable
    $10Status report options, mask

    mask
    $11Junction deviation, millimeters

    mm
    $12Arc tolerance, millimeters

    mm
    $13Report in inches, boolean ⚪ Disable ⚫ Enable
    $20Soft limits enable, boolean ✗ Disable ✓ Enable
    $21Hard limits enable, boolean ✗ Disable ✓ Enable
    $22Homing cycle enable, boolean (Grbl) / mask (GrblHAL)

    mask
    $23Homing direction invert, mask
    XMin
    app-notification
    Max
    YMin
    app-notification
    Max
    ZMin
    app-notification
    Max
    $24Homing locate feed rate, mm/min

    mm/min
    $25Homing search seek rate, mm/min

    mm/min
    $26Homing switch debounce delay, milliseconds

    ms
    $27Homing switch pull-off distance, millimeters

    mm
    $30Maximum spindle speed, RPM

    RPM
    $31Minimum spindle speed, RPM

    RPM
    $32Laser-mode enable, boolean ✗ Disable ✓ Enable
    $100X-axis steps per millimeter

    steps/mm
    CalcSteps
    $101Y-axis steps per millimeter

    steps/mm
    CalcSteps
    $102Z-axis steps per millimeter

    steps/mm
    CalcSteps
    $110X-axis maximum rate, mm/min

    mm/min
    $111Y-axis maximum rate, mm/min

    mm/min
    $112Z-axis maximum rate, mm/min

    mm/min
    $120X-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

    mm/sec²
    $121Y-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

    mm/sec²
    $122Z-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2

    mm/sec²
    $130X-axis maximum travel, millimeters

    mm
    $131Y-axis maximum travel, millimeters

    mm
     
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    Too hard to read and missing info Use the BACKUP SETTINGS button on the toolbar...
     
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    Hello guys just back from a work trip,

    Wondering if you can assist again.
    Replaced my Z axis micro limit switch and it is working when triggered.
    But I can still not home the machine. Z axis homes fine
    X and y axis do not get triggered, the machine just keeps on pushing past where it should stop.
    and it shudders, so I have to abort.
    Thanks again...
     
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    Use troubleshooting tab, test switches by hand.
    Make sure that they all work, but also that the correct axis lights up (didn't have X plugged into Y for example)
     
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    $0=10 ; Step pulse time, microseconds
    $1=255 ; Step idle delay, milliseconds
    $2=0 ; Step pulse invert, mask
    $3=5 ; Step direction invert, mask
    $4=1 ; Invert step enable pin, boolean
    $5=0 ; Invert limit pins, boolean/mask
    $6=0 ; Invert probe pin, boolean
    $10=1 ; Status report options, mask
    $11=0.010 ; Junction deviation, millimeters
    $12=0.002 ; Arc tolerance, millimeters
    $13=0 ; Report in inches, boolean
    $20=1 ; Soft limits enable, boolean
    $21=0 ; Hard limits enable, boolean
    $22=1 ; Homing cycle enable, boolean (Grbl) / mask (GrblHAL)
    $23=0 ; Homing direction invert, mask
    $24=100.000 ; Homing locate feed rate, mm/min
    $25=1000.000 ; Homing search seek rate, mm/min
    $26=250 ; Homing switch debounce delay, milliseconds
    $27=15.000 ; Homing switch pull-off distance, millimeters
    $30=1000 ; Maximum spindle speed, RPM
    $31=0 ; Minimum spindle speed, RPM
    $32=0 ; Laser-mode enable, boolean
    $100=26.667 ; X-axis steps per millimeter
    $101=26.667 ; Y-axis steps per millimeter
    $102=199.100 ; Z-axis steps per millimeter
    $110=10000.000 ; X-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    $111=10000.000 ; Y-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    $112=2500.000 ; Z-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    $120=150.000 ; X-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    $121=150.000 ; Y-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    $122=150.000 ; Z-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    $130=824.000 ; X-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    $131=1280.000 ; Y-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    $132=122.000 ; Z-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    $I=workbee1510
     
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    All are plugged in correctly.
    I tested each one, and x and y are non responsive.
    Must be a GRBL setting I have input incorrectly.
     
  24. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Grbl like this has no per-port settings. This is either wiring or damaged switches (ramming into a switch can damage internals)
     
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    Do all my settings look correct to you peter?
    Getting ready now to change all the limit switches.
    Let you know how I make out, wish me luck!!
     
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    Normally open switches expected

    Homing is enabled

    All switches at Axis Maximas for all axes

    Not related to homing and troubleshooting tab, but generally set to "1"

    So to answer the question no I doubt its settings related
     
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