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Discussion in 'Control Software' started by Mike Latimer, Sep 29, 2020.

  1. Mike Latimer

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    We have just setup a X Y plotter 1.2 m x 2.4 m using open build parts and a Black box controller.
    What we are trying to do is very simple.
    We are wanting to setup a measurement grid of 50mm squares, 1.2m x 2.4m.
    At each intersecting point on the grid we want to pause for 30 seconds take a measurement then go to the next point and repeat.
    We can make G code for the grid no problem, but how do we get our measurement head to pause for 30 sec and continue to the next point.
     
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    #2 Giarc, Sep 29, 2020
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    Just a quick check to be sure and I found GRBL does support the G4. gnea/grbl
     
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    But I think with grbl the pause is in seconds rather than milliseconds as it would be in "standard" g-code.
    Alex.
     
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    You are probably right. I guess we would have found out if I was wrong 8.333 hours after the first attempt. :) I have never messed with the G4. I assumed ms because of every other arduino project I do is ms.
     
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    While the pause has its attractions I don't like it..... how do you know when to take the measurement? travel time between every point will not be equal.
    I would rather integrate the Gcode generation and the sampling into one script, so the script will send a move command, wait for the 'OK' from GRBL, then sample, then move, etc.
    Then you know for sure that no sample was taken while still moving.
     
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    LOL - I embarrassed myself by getting this wrong about a year ago - not sure why grbl decided to be different on this one.
    Alex.
     
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    not GRBL that is different from anything in the Gcode world, the RS274 Gcode standard and LinuxCNC's interpretation of it says seconds
    G Codes

    GRBL is essentially NOT an Arduino project, while you can compile and flash it using the Arduino IDE it uses not a single line of Arduino library code, it is pure C/C++, therefore you can compile and flash it with a number of other ATMega compilers AFAIK.
     
  9. Rob Taylor

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    Yep, that. I've flashed it directly from Windows command line in the past with AVRDUDE. Easier with the Arduino IDE, but that's also just a stub to generate the hex from the library files, no real "Arduino" code there.

    Arduino just happens to be the most convenient form factor for the ATMega328p.
     
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    Hi i would like to ask about the G4 dwell time, i am using the Black box control system, i am setting up a very basic system and wanting the Z axes to go down and pause for 3 seconds and return back home. but i cant get the dwell time to work. does it work in the black box code or is there another way to achieve my z axes move with a wait time of (seconds). any help would be helpful.
     
  11. Rob Taylor

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    All you should need to write is G4 P3, that's it. G Codes
     
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    thanks for your reply, when i put the G4 P3 in the code and simulate it, it doesn't pause. will it pause in the simulation in the open builds control simulation.
     
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    That I don't know off-hand, though if the simulation uses grbl's hardware simulation mode then it should. I'd just do a very short hand-code and run it straight on the machine. Only need to move a few mm to be able to tell whether it's performing as expected.

    G90 G21 G17 G54
    G53 Z0
    G1 Z-10 F500
    G4 P3
    G0 Z0
    M30

    Something like that. Change the G21 to G20 and the Z-10 to Z-0.5 if you're working in imperial units. Home first, obviously.
     
  14. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Simulator is eye candy :) run it on the machine!
     
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    Thanks for the info, the dwell (G4) works on the machine but not in the simulator. that was throwing me off.
     
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    I just upgraded versions (1.0.270 now) and the simulator pauses, but it doesn't matter what number you put in there, it will pause the same amount
     
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    Thanks for the report, try the Beta of 1.0.272 - modified 3D viewer being built: See Control crashes on large files?
     
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    Thank you I will do that.
    Hey who's writing the simulator? I'm a coder. Can I help?
     
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    OpenBuilds/OpenBuilds-CONTROL accepts pull requests :)
     
  20. Kerry Thurber

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    I misspoke. There is a minute pause between commands in the simulator. My G4 commands in version 1.0.270 are not processed.
     
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    The sim does not handle pauses, it just gets the array of points, and moves between them with the approximate feedrate
     

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