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Workbee 1010 Axis swapped and end stop not initialising

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  1. llukas

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    Hello,
    I am relatively new, so sorry if these issues are a no brainer for advanced users and thanks for any help.

    I am currently trying to get a Workbee 1010 to work, it was just collecting dust because some techie gifted it to my current wood workshop and nobody bothered with it.

    I managed to talk to it and update the duet v2 and it's moving.

    But: the axes seem to be flipped? Like when I position the router next to the end stops and tell it to move in a positive direction, it moves towards the end stops, then ignoring them and grinding.

    I also cannot home the router because it says it fails to initialize the end stops. But when I click the end stops manually the corresponding LED on the duet lights up.

    Also I cannot use the OpenBuilds Control App because when trying to connect it says "Error! No supported firmware detected"

    Do you have any idea on where to start looking for a solution?

    I read somewhere that the problem with the endstops comes from incorrect wiring but from my understanding the person who built this thing made it work and he seemed to know what he was doing. Unfortunately as of now he is out of the picture so its me vs the machine...

    Any hint would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance!
     
  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    CONTROL needs a Grbl/grblHAL based controller. You might want to check out the super easy to use OpenBuilds BlackBox at https://docs.openbuilds.com/blackbox-x32

    The Duet is primarily a 3D printer controller. Harder to use etc
     
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  3. Alex Chambers

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    The Duet comes with its own control firmware, written as a web page, but stored on the Duet's eeprom and using config files stored on the SD card. Find the SD card (power off obviously) - it's near the ethernet or (depending which version of the Duet you have) WiFi module. Read it on a computer, look for a config.g file, copy that and upload it here. That will tell me quite a lot about your machine and what other questions I need to ask.

    Alex.

    PS, post a pic of your Duet, if it's mounted on the back of the X C-beam the left side viewed from the back of the machine. Don't connect a laptop to the usb port on the Duet if it's plugged into the mains, or if the Duet is powered on - the usb connection is ONLY used for set up and uses the 5V from the usb for that.

    PPS, the Duet uses the Rep-Rap dialect of g-code, and it only uses the "endstops" for homing - they are not used as limit switches, the Duet will ignore them unless it is running a homing file. It relies on the machine being homed, axes dimensions being correctly set and soft limits.

    How are you getting the machine to move as you don't appear to have access to it's control software?
     
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    Thanks a bunch for the quick answers!

    @Peter Van Der Walt : I will look into this, been finding some threads in this forum about duet vs blackbox and boy do I have a lot to learn haha. Only been building an AxiDraw before :D

    @Alex Chambers pic and config file attached, but the duet is mounted on the right side if viewed from the back. Or maybe I just don't know the conventions on what is front and back on this machine. Also there is a config override, maybe that is important too

    Oh and I found some page when googling for that endstop problem one source said the red wire goes in the NC spot? At this machine they all go in the N0, may that be a problem? Found conflicting Info on this.

    Thanks!

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    @llukas, all good, I actually wanted a pic of the left hand side of the Duet board, but I can see what I need - you have an ethernet Duet, but your config file seems to be for a WiFi version. I noticed you said that you "upgraded" something - what did you upgrade? If it was the firmware where did you get it from?

    You are probably going to need a terminal programme to find out what IP address has been set on the Duet - YAT if you have a windows PC.

    It's getting well into the evening here in the UK, but happy to help you get this set up tomorrow, hopefully with imstructions here, but I can help via TeamViewer if necessary.

    Alex.
     
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    Wow you are amazing! I followed these instructions here: Installing and Updating Firmware
    I got the firmware from github and was pretty sure I was aware of there being two different versions of the duet, but I will check again. (Did all this last week and then had less time than planned to work with this machine)

    I use a mac and already have used the Serial Tools App to follow some different tutorial (Getting connected to your Duet) and in the end I had the correct ip to talk to the duet.

    I will be in the workshop tomorrow again as well. I will fool around a bit more now and hopefully tomorrow I am a bit more knowledgeable already :D
    Thanks in advance and have a peaceful evening!
     
  7. Alex Chambers

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    @llukas I'm guessing what version of workbee you have, but better to follow the Ooznest instructions. For now I would suggest NOT updating your firmware to their latest version - don't go beyond their version 1.0.7. Have a read through their instructions in the link below.

    Assembling Your WorkBee - V2.2 - V2.2.1

    The Ooznest learning portal has quite a few resources, including all versions of their firmware.

    Ooznest Learning Portal

    Alex.
     
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    Ok, I think I can get it to work, but how do i measure what dimensions my workbee has? In the current config file it says the axis limits are 550x770mm.
    The folder with the firmware only has the following options. I suppose it's the length of the c-beams so I go with 750x1000?

    edit: I am stupid, I can just check in the config file, 750x1000 is correct...
     

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    Ok I followed the instructions and now it says it's failing to connect because of an incompatible firmware version... I chose the 1.0.7 like you recommende, any ideas?
     
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    Thanks! Really stuck on the firmware thing now though. Like what firmware is incompatible with what? Do I need to change the Duet Web control? Or downgrade the reprap? Lost...
     
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    The link you quoted earlier gave the instructions for ALL the versions of the Rep-Rap firmware - which version did you install?
    How are you connecting to the Duet?
    I know nothing about macs, but I believe you have a terminal programme? With no mains power to your laptop or the Duet connect via usb and send M552 - tell me what message you get in return.
    Alex.
     
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    I downloaded the 1.0.7 like you said. When I connect via USB now it says "
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet Version 2.03 dated 2019-06-13b2
    " now though. I am a bit confused, is there a difference between firmware for the workbee and the duet? Or does it reference the same software?
     
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    The Duet uses REP-RAP firmware - Ooznest's User Interface and config files run on top of that.
    Version 2.03 of the REP-RAP firmware is correct for version 1.0.7 of Ooznest's UI.
    As I asked above - how are you connecting to the Duet? You should be using a browser, without the usb cable connected. If so, what IP address are you using ?

    What are your IPv4 settings on your laptop?

    Alex.
     
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    I do use a browser without USB cable, IP Adress is 192.168.179.110 Screenshot 2023-08-06 at 17.00.24.png
     
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    That is the user interface for a 3d printer.
    Did you download and extrract the V1.0.7 firmware from Ooznest?
    If so try the steps in the link below.

    3. Connecting, Updating and Configuring Your WorkBee

    NOTE - see in the instructions about changing the IP address in the config.g file before uploading the files to the Duet - you are using subnet 179 in your IPv4 settings - Ooznest use subnet 2 (third number in the IP address). Either change the IP address in the config.g file to the one you have been using or change your IPv4 settings in your laptop. I suggest the first option.

    Alex.
     
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    That is what I already did? Like I said I followed your instructions. You send this link: Assembling Your WorkBee - V2.2 - V2.2.1 and said not to upgrade beyond 1.0.7. So from that link there was a link to 3. Connecting, Updating and Configuring Your WorkBee So I followed that link, downloaded the 1.0.7 and followed the instructions, including changing the IP in the config file. I can still reach the duet under that IP but it says incompatible firmware version like in the screenshot...
     
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    Some of the files from Ooznest have not uploaded - I have those files on a different PC, so I'll come back to you when I get that one warmed up.

    Alex.
     
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    I did step 5, after clicking yes on the update prompt the machine rebootet. Then there was maybe two or three minutes where it tried to reconnect while flashing some rapidly appearing and disappearing warnings and errors about some http request that the machine did not respond to or so and then I ended up in state I am now: failed to connect, incompatible firmware version.

    So no, I have not tried to configure limit switches after not being able to connect...

    Should I just try and update the reprap firmware once more? Or maybe the error is, because I was already on a higher version of reprap before I started this whole process?

    Thanks for all your time by the way!
     
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    Ok good for now, the firmware need to match up with the current version of duet web control and there was still the newer version of duet web control on my SD card because I had updated to reprap 3.4 when I first set up the machine.
     
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    1) send M115 to check your firmware version and some details of your hardware - tell me what the result is. One thing that concerned me about your Duet board is that it looked like a clone rather than a genuine one - is the ethernet module soldered to the main board or plugged into a socket?

    2) check that your SD card is properly inserted - some of the files need to be uploaded to that and if it's not properly inserted that could cause a failure to upload the files (when you get everything working make a back-up of your SD card - they are very unreliable)

    Alex.
     
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    Best to always follow Ooznest's instructions rather than the ones you started with - they have got the firmware sorted for a cnc machine and their set up instructions do work as long as you don't miss any of their steps.

    Alex.

    PS I sent you a message earlier.
     

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