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I have replaced my nema 17 with nema 23 motors - Can I adjust the BlackBox X32 voltage?

Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by Xafod, Oct 5, 2023.

  1. Xafod

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    I have built a custom frame from a 5050 extrusion channels and was going to use my nema 17 motors but decided due to the weight of it all to up to nema 23. After doing some digging, I found the my nema 23's are 3.08VDC motors. Checking the output using a volt meter, I am seeing 24VDC. Is there a way to configure the BlackBox X32 to provide 3.08 VDC to the motors?
     
  2. Alex Chambers

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    Modern stepper drivers, including those in the blackbox X32, "chop" the voltage in order to control the current. We can give a better opinion of your motors if you provide the full spec (inductance matters too) but the output voltage from the blackbox, measured with a voltmeter as you did, is fine for 3 Volt motors.
    Some people (not with the blackbox) supply their stepper drivers with 48 Volts with their 3 Volt steppers, so you definitely won't have problems.

    Alex.
     
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  4. Xafod

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    Nema 23 stepper motor with 1.8°step angle (200 steps/revolution). Each phase draws 2.8A, allowing for a holding torque of 1.26Nm(178.5oz.in).

    Specifications:

    • Model: 57x56
    • Step Angle: 1.8°
    • Step Accuracy: 5%
    • Holding Torque: 1.26Nm(178.5oz.in)
    • Rated Current/phase: 2.8A
    • Phase Resistance: 0.9ohms
    • Voltage: 2.52V
    • Inductance: 2.5mH±20%(1KHz)
    • Weight: 700g
    • Lead length: 30cm
     
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    When I get home I will give the pots a half turn. Thank you!!!!
     
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    Just for fun. Here is the beast
     

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    I'm getting the red ! on the pots after setting them to halfway and resetting.
    I even went as far as factory resetting and erasing the eeprom and making the changes below.
    Am I missing something?

    Here is the Info/Config
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [VER:1.1f.20230501:custom]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [OPT:VNSL2,35,1024,3,0]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [AXS:3:XYZ]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [NEWOPT:ENUMS,RT+,REBOOT,TC,SED,RTC,WIFI,SD]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [FIRMWARE:grblHAL]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [NVS STORAGE:*FLASH]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [DRIVER:ESP32]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [DRIVER VERSION:230501]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [DRIVER OPTIONS:4.3.1]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [BOARD:BlackBox X32]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [AUX IO:1,0,0,0]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [WIFI MAC:40:22:d8:01:80:04]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [IP:0.0.0.0]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [PLUGIN:WebUI v0.17]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] [PLUGIN:SDCARD v1.09]
    [17:27:20] [ $I ] ok
    [17:27:20] [ $G ] [GC:G0 G54 G17 G21 G90 G94 G49 G98 G50 M5 M9 T0 F0 S0.]
    [17:27:20] [ $G ] ok
    [17:27:21] [ connect ] Firmware Detected: grbl version 1.1f on COM6
    [17:27:51] [ $$ ] $0=10.0 ;Step pulse time, microseconds
    [17:27:51] [ $$ ] $1=255 ;Step idle delay, milliseconds
    [17:27:51] [ $$ ] $2=0 ;Step pulse invert, mask
    [17:27:51] [ $$ ] $3=4 ;Step direction invert, mask
    [17:27:51] [ $$ ] $4=0 ;Invert step enable pin, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $5=7 ;Invert limit pins, boolean/mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $6=1 ;Invert probe pin, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $8=0 ;Ganged axes direction invert as bitfield
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $9=1 ;PWM Spindle as bitfield where setting bit 0 enables the rest
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $10=511 ;Status report options, mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $11=0.010 ;Junction deviation, millimeters
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $12=0.002 ;Arc tolerance, millimeters
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $13=0 ;Report in inches, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $14=0 ;Limit pins invert, mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $15=0 ;Coolant pins invert, mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $16=0 ;Spindle pins invert, mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $17=0 ;Control pins pullup disable, mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $18=0 ;Limit pins pullup disable, mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $19=0 ;Probe pin pullup disable, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $20=0 ;Soft limits enable, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $21=0 ;Hard limits enable, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $22=0 ;Homing cycle enable, boolean (Grbl) / mask (GrblHAL)
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $23=3 ;Homing direction invert, mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $24=100.0 ;Homing locate feed rate, mm/min
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $25=1000.0 ;Homing search seek rate, mm/min
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $26=250 ;Homing switch debounce delay, milliseconds
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $27=5.000 ;Homing switch pull-off distance, millimeters
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $28=0.100 ;G73 retract distance, in mm
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $29=0.0 ;Step pulse delay (ms)
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $30=1000.000 ;Maximum spindle speed, RPM
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $31=0.000 ;Minimum spindle speed, RPM
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $32=0 ;Laser-mode enable, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $33=5000.0 ;Spindle PWM frequency
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $34=0.0 ;Spindle off Value
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $35=0.0 ;Spindle min value
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $36=100.0 ;Spindle max value
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $37=0 ;Stepper deenergize mask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $39=1 ;Enable printable realtime command characters, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $40=0 ;Apply soft limits for jog commands, boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $43=1 ;Homing passes
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $44=4 ;Homing cycle 1
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $45=3 ;Homing cycle 2
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $46=0 ;Homing cycle 3
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $62=0 ;Sleep Enable
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $63=3 ;Feed Hold Actions
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $64=1 ;Force Init Alarm
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $65=0 ;Require homing sequence to be executed at startup
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $70=7 ;Network Services
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $73=0 ;Wifi Mode
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $74=********** ;Wifi network SSID
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $75=********** ;Wifi network PSK
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $100=40.000 ;X-axis steps per millimeter
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $101=40.000 ;Y-axis steps per millimeter
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $102=200.000 ;Z-axis steps per millimeter
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $110=2500.000 ;X-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $111=2500.000 ;Y-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $112=2500.000 ;Z-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $120=150.000 ;X-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $121=150.000 ;Y-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $122=150.000 ;Z-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $130=1000.000 ;X-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $131=1000.000 ;Y-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $132=100.000 ;Z-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $320=grblHAL ;Hostname, max: 64
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $322=192.168.1.150 ;IP Address
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $323=192.168.1.1 ;Gateway
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $324=255.255.255.0 ;Netmask
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $325=23 ;Telnet port
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $326=80 ;HTTP port
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $327=81 ;Websocket port
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $341=0 ;Tool Change Mode
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $342=30.0 ;Tool Change probing distance
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $343=25.0 ;Tool Change Locate Feed rate
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $344=200.0 ;Tool Change Search Seek rate
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $345=200.0 ;Tool Change Probe Pull Off rate
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $346=1 ;Restore position after M6 as boolean
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $370=0 ;Invert I/O Port Inputs (mask)
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $384=0 ;Disable G92 Persistence
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $396=30 ;WebUI timeout in minutes
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $397=0 ;WebUI auto report interval in milliseconds
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $398=35 ;Planner buffer blocks
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] $481=0 ;Autoreport interval in ms
    [17:27:52] [ $$ ] ok
     
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