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  1. Adam Jelinek

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    I having an issue with my leads 1010 cutting my gcoade wrong. I'm adding a juice groove to a cutting g board and it's set to 1.5 in from the edge and .5 wide. But when I run it 2 sides are at 1 1/2 (correct) from the edge the other 2 size are 1 5/16 (wrong) from the edge. My vcarve program is correct I have emailed them and they have confirm my Gcode is correct and suggested I contact openbuilds. Could someone tell me what this issue is and how to fix it?
     
  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    CONTROL > Wizards and tools menu > Calibration menu > Calibrate all axes

     
  3. Adam Jelinek

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    Question on this. I have done this before so not an issue doing it. My questions are how ofter should the cnc be recalibratd, and what causes this to go out of calibration once it's been calibrated?
     
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    Once. Unless something changes (accidentally reloaded machine profile or messed around in settings?)
    Run it to check if its off in the first place - otherwise the issue is elsewhere
     
  5. Adam Jelinek

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    I ran the calibration and it was 100.49. So I plugged that in. I then ran it a second time and came back 100.12. Is this normal or should the double chexk of been 100 after the first calibration?
     
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    Use a longer distance. 100mm is just a sample value (good for our smallest minimill) but type in a larger number and do calibration over a long as possible distance. Larger scale = more accurate
    Also make sure machine is mechanically sounds, slipping/binding, loose wheels, loose grubscrews on shaft couplers, incorrectly installed nutblocks etc can affect accuracy and repeatability.
     
  7. Adam Jelinek

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    I used 500mm as my travel distance. I was only off by 1mm for the x and y was 2.5m. I now have ot recalibrate ld with them numbers. I can't see 1 or 2.5 mm causing this issue I have. But of if fixed the issue great but if not what else could be the problem? Everything is in good mechanical shape. My tram and square is good I checked them prior.to the project. My program is also correct
     
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    Well if the machine is accurate, that might not be the case

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    might be it.

    If the machine is fine, and file is perfect - it would be calibration. Now eliminated it tests out fine
    With that checked, on to the Elsewheres

    If its calibrated and the file is perfect - you could be stalling or slipping during the moves (mechanical, but usually results in undersized cuts, or weird offsets etc)
    If its calibrated and the machine is perfect - your gcode or setup of it (incorrect origin, or tool or something) could be the cause

    So we can't say all three are perfect :) otherwise the job would run succesfully.

    Stock size, origin, etc correct in Vectric?
    Zeroed correctly before starting job?
    Gcode, vectric screenshots, photos of cut, stock measurements etc for review?
     
  9. Adam Jelinek

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    In vcarve i put a square the same size of my board centered so it lives up with the edges. then i did an offset 1.5 inches to the edge of m juice groove. i added an other offset a 1/2 from the in from the other so it have me a .5 wide juice groove. the juice groove is the proper depth and size but its not centered like it should be.. 2 sides of the board are spot on at 1.5 inches in from the edge. the other 2 sides are 1 5/16 in from the edges making it 3/16 off on 2 sides. the attachments are the vcarve file and the gcode. i need to run a test on some scrap to see if the calibration changed anything but 2.5mm difference should give you 3/16 of a difference
     

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    I have not yet upgraded to V 12 of Vcarve so I can't open that project.

    Did you cut out the board, or was the board pre-cut? Was it slightly undersized if pre-cut? That plus the previous slightly inaccurate calibration could cause it to be accurate along only 2 edges.

    If you want to do screenshots so we can look at the vectric project, Microsoft's snipping tool would give the best results.
    upload_2024-6-27_19-31-38.png
     
  11. Alex Chambers

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    @Giarc - if you don't need to see the g-code the trial version of Aspire will open a Vectric file which can sometimes be useful in helping with someone else's question.

    Alex.
     
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    True but screenshots are instant :)
    Plus trial expire and you can't install a new one.

     
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    I did not know that. How often can you download the trial version.
     
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    I haven't found any limitations. You have to download it again every time they bring out a new version because files saved in a new version won't open in an older one. You can't open files saved in the trial version by someone else either so it's not a universal solution.

    Alex.
     

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