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Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by Gewehr, Feb 28, 2025.

  1. Gewehr

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    They came without any documentation at all. I matched the wire colors per your video tutorial.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Got it.
     
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    Not every company uses the same color scheme. I believe you said yours were not from OpenBuilds so you need to verify your wire pairs using this guide: docs:blackbox-x32:faq-identify-motor-coils [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    When you are connected to the controller with OpenBuilds Control Software: OpenBuilds Software: OpenBuilds CONTROL and OpenBuilds CAM - FREE software to run your CNC, Laser, Plasma or Pen Plotter you can choose a machine profile from the list under the GRBL settings tab. Here is a screen shot where I circled the GRBL settings tab (Top middle tab), and the mini mill from the dropdown list of machine profiles. My screen is in Dark Mode because I chose that. Yours may look different.
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    I am going to stay on the safe side and just order motors i know the identity of for sure from you folks.

    I live off-grid and work with carbon fiber, so i may find use for the old motors in wind turbines.

    Right now i am working on an ASR for the m1911 with a unique disengagement option and a variable range fixed aperture with tool-free stripping.

    That's how your statement looked to me.

    Still, i got the basic software working. No idea how. But will have to put everything on hold until i get those motors ordered. Probably a week or 2 would be my guess. Wrapping up a couple chef's knives.
     
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    I am going to wait for another pay day and order a few more things to curb shipping costs. In the meantime, do you folks recommend a good 1/4 bit for 7075 aluminum?

    Also, is there a good bit for steel? The steel ones are just for bulk removal.
     
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    Thanks. I will give it a look.

    If i ever get this all figured out, i am going to put together a COMPREHENSIVE tutorial for this stuff. I am seeing why so few people get into CAD and 3D programming. The software side of this stuff is extremely unfriendly to beginners. And software people have a tendancy to have a very difficult time relating it to laymen.
     
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    maybe this will help, drawing for CAM is not always complicated, but it does depend on what software you are using.


    now you have seen the basics, lets get more complicated, using 2.5D drawings to cut a 3D part


    note that Sketchup and SketchUcam are my specialities but I do use Fusion360 for more complicated parts and I maintain the postprocessor for OB, because software is my thing.
    Sketchup is getting long in the tooth, and Fusion is complicated, maybe Vectric or FreeCAD will better suite your needs?

    You have ventured down a path that requires computing skills, I have been doing this (programming) for 35 years and I still learn something every day.
    Even completely manual cutting of projects will require measuring and calculating angles (trigonometry) and so on, using CNC means you can 'just draw it' (sort of ) and the machine will cut it, almost no calculations and no laying out (measuring and marking), yet there are still things you need to know how to do, to use CAD and then to use that to generate Gcode via CAM systems, to set up the mechanics of the machine, then set up the job so that the physical setup matches the virtual setup in the CAM, before finally pressing the GO button.

    This video shows the process of cutting a first project
     
  8. Gewehr

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    Yeah. I get all that and i have computer skills. The issue is tech people for some reason are very bad at relating to the layman. My parents own a computer consulting company and have since the 1990s. So i have plenty of experience with this crowd to draw from. I have nothing against them other than wishing they would at least acknowledge that and try hiring people to translate it into something the layman can pick up on. I personally come from the opposite school of thought. I design and build knives and gun parts with a very strong emphasis on user friendliness. That may seem unrelated but the general principles and mindset works across the board. In other words, the way of thinking can be applied anywhere.
    Most computer programs i've tried to learn seem arbitrary and like something you would do if you want to make things as difficult and exclusionary as possible. Much like the mechanics of German cars.
    And it's not just in my head. Many of these programs require special schooling to use yet lack any mechanics that character creation in video games that a child can learn in an afternoon can't do. For example, if you made a slider based program with organized categories, it would be slow to use, but your kids could probably figure it out in an afternoon which opens the cnc world to a much wider range of customers.
    Like i said, if i ever get this all figured out, i am going to make a tutorial that simplifies it for the layman. Just to make entry into this market more accessable if nothing else. The more exclusionary you are, the less creativity finds it's way into it and the less progress we see as result. So it's well worth the trouble just to bring in new blood.

    Anyway, i will look at your links once i have the mill running. Right now i am a bit over loaded with knife work.
     
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    I got it all up and running today. Only issue is the y axis is moving the opposite direction is i would have expected it to. Up moves it towards you. Down moves it towards the back of the machine. I don't know if that's how it's intended but it's wired up identical to everything else.

    I am going to go ahead and order the LED setup and some rubber bumpers and prepare the bench in the meantime.
    Will probably try some knife hilts when everything arrives. Just to start small and deal with what i know is needed.
     
  10. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Actually correct, moves are TOOL moves, with a moving bed, feels weird for a bit till you learn it. Y+ = move tool to rear of stock. Do do that, moving table has to move towards you, so the bit can end up at the back edge of the stock

    X+ should move tool to right of stock. Do do that table has to go left, so tool can go right relative to the stock
     
  11. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Alex, minimill is a moving table, static router design. Not a gantry machine
     
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    Yes, my bad Peter - have deleted the erroneous post.

    Alex.
     

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