Welcome to Our Community

Some features disabled for guests. Register Today.

OpenBuilds CONTROL Software

Discussion in 'Control Software' started by Mark Carew, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Kja0

    Kja0 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2023
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the reply. It was homed and all zeroed. Then pressed start and z just went straight down till the limit and got the error message.
     

    Attached Files:

  2. Giarc

    Giarc OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    3,015
    Likes Received:
    1,682
    How did it go up but the picture shows a negative Z coordinate? How did you generate the G code?
     
    Kja0 likes this.
  3. Kja0

    Kja0 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2023
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Spindle moved down and should display plus not minus value?

    In fusion with the openbuilds post processor. Pretty much the same situation when taking a file from openbuidls cam.
     
  4. Alex Chambers

    Alex Chambers Master
    Moderator Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2018
    Messages:
    2,784
    Likes Received:
    1,364
    The back, right, UP corner of your machine is the MAXIMUM for each axis, but is set to ZERO in the MACHINE co-ordinate system - as you move away from that corner the MACHINE co-ordinate becomes lower - that is more NEGATIVE.
    As you move Z down the coordinate will become more negative, not positive.

    The Openbuilds post processor for Fusion uses the MACHINE co-ordinate system for safety moves at the beginning and end of the job.

    When you jog your machine X +ve should move right, Y +ve should move back, and Z +ve should move up - is that the case?

    Alex.
     
    Kja0 likes this.
  5. Kja0

    Kja0 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2023
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Y was not correct. After the switch the machine homes to bottom left corner. 20230226_094716.jpg 20230226_094707.jpg
     
  6. Kja0

    Kja0 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2023
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    So I found that my z axis was not homing. Reflashed it and now can home it. So the machine and box in the control soft allign.

    But problem remains that the work itself is placed ontop of the box in the soft. So when the spindle tries to move that high it just hits the limit switch.

    How can I move the job in my shadow box in the control software?
     
  7. EmilioCo

    EmilioCo New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    21
    Hello greetings, comment that the latest version v1.0.354 does not work on linux and I tried it on two different PCs, one with Ubuntu, the one I have connected to the CNC, and the other with Neon KDE and in neither of the two operating systems can I get the program to work. This has happened since the last update. I have been using your software for several years. Thank you.
     
  8. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    15,051
    Likes Received:
    4,313
    See CONTROL in MacOS/Linux: Window doesn't open
     
  9. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    15,051
    Likes Received:
    4,313
    By Homing and then setting Work Zero properly.

    Work Zero and Origin in CAM must match of course. We also assume you did work through the Grbl wiki and made sure your homing, including a) jog directions and b) homing dir (which tells Grbl where the switches are) has been done correctly

    If Grbl is correctly set up, setting home, origin and work zero correctly is the job of the operator (you).

    Watch the Hello World Video for a rundown

     
    Alex Chambers likes this.
  10. Giarc

    Giarc OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    3,015
    Likes Received:
    1,682
    I apologize. I misread what you wrote.
     
  11. lizard

    lizard New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2022
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    4
    This is a completely unimportant issue but my time estimate when I run a plot is generally really off, sometimes by an hour or so. Is there a way to get it more accurate? It would be nice to generally know when something will finish but also I can easily live without.
     
  12. David the swarfer

    David the swarfer OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Messages:
    3,462
    Likes Received:
    1,915
    The CAM needs to know the cut speed (it does) and how fast your machine rapids (it doesn't) to get this accurate.
     
  13. Lea23

    Lea23 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    6
    Hi Guys,
    Updated Oenbuilds Control again today and have got another error pop-up on the surfacing wizard. See the picture attached.
    The surfacing wizard runs but fails with the router not switching off, I have to end the wizard with the OK button, any help is greatly welcome. Screenshot (2).png
     
  14. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    15,051
    Likes Received:
    4,313
    Screenshot of your Surfacing Parameters please
     
  15. Lea23

    Lea23 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    6
    There you go Peter. Screenshot (3).png
     
    Peter Van Der Walt likes this.
  16. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    15,051
    Likes Received:
    4,313
    The error mentions a Z-0.1 move, but none of your values in the screenshot has 0.1mm decimals? Are you sure those are the same parameters you used earlier?
    Try another round with the positive values as entered in the screenshot please. If that also errors, please provide the Gcode (gcode editor tab has a save button)
     
  17. Lea23

    Lea23 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    6
    Sorry Peter, give me a minute as I've just left the workshop, I know the parameters are different than before and the error occurs even with positive values. Just heading back to get the gcode.
     
  18. Lea23

    Lea23 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    6
    There you go Peter.
     

    Attached Files:

  19. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    15,051
    Likes Received:
    4,313
    Using your exact parameters I don't generate any double-minus gcode.
    I suspect we have different screenshots and files and things causing confusion here.

    Start fresh, use positive numbers only and it will work as designed. "Depth" is a positive value = you want to cut 2mm deep (but the machine will move to Z-Position of negative-2 for that) so don't enter any -2 or -1 etc values - and it will work. Tested again.

    If it does happen to you next time - make sure we definately have latest CONTROL (1.0.355 at the time of this reply, but do check future), screenshot of the exact parameters (not similar, exact) and sample gcode file (from that same parameter)
     
  20. Lea23

    Lea23 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    6
    Hi Peter, I will have another go tomorrow, as far as I know I have only entered positive numbers, I have not use a minus before depth per pass or total depth, I've no idea where the double minus has come from, once I boot up the machine I will then run the wizard again and store the relevant gcode. Hopefully it will work.
     
    Peter Van Der Walt likes this.
  21. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    15,051
    Likes Received:
    4,313
    Sounds like a good plan - I am unable to generate any double minus files in latest CONTROL, with any combination of positive values in the wizard.
     
  22. David the swarfer

    David the swarfer OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Messages:
    3,462
    Likes Received:
    1,915
    in .354 I am seeing --0.5 in the framing pass sections (0.5 is the pass depth), waiting for update to download....
    .355 is ok.
     
  23. Lea23

    Lea23 New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    6
    All working fine now guys, thank you for the update to sort this out. Double negatives, no one needs them in their lives!!
     
  24. JustinTime

    JustinTime Veteran
    Builder

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2013
    Messages:
    784
    Likes Received:
    259
    Double Negative is a Positive! :D :D
     
    sharmstr likes this.
  25. Chris Haskins

    Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2023
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Got my Blackbox x32. Wrapping my head around this device, worked quite a bit with a Mach3 CNC router.
    Lots of documentation to review, but hope you all could help.
    Looking for a GCODE list or manual like you might for Mach (For example) Could anyone point me, or does it exist?
     
  26. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    15,051
    Likes Received:
    4,313
    Github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki about halfway down. But just use any Grbl compatible CAM/Post. Easier. See docs.openbuilds.com > Software section
     
  27. Durahl

    Durahl New
    Builder

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2018
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    What's the deal with Return to Work Zero first lowering the Tool to Z5 and then dragging it to X0Z0 crashing it into literally anything being 5mm higher than the Stock Material along the way such as literally 99% of the Workholding Methods used by people using this Software?

    Is this some kind of Plot to drive up sales from broken Endmills or what's the thought process behind it?
     
  28. JustinTime

    JustinTime Veteran
    Builder

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2013
    Messages:
    784
    Likes Received:
    259
    That is not a Control problem it's the result of the program you used to generate the G-code. Make sure IT doesn't tell the machine to go down to Z5 before moving to X0Y0.
     
    sharmstr likes this.
  29. Giarc

    Giarc OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    3,015
    Likes Received:
    1,682
    The 5 mm hits 0% of my work-holding methods. ;) You could always write your own macro having it travel at a higher height.
     
    sharmstr likes this.
  30. sharmstr

    sharmstr OpenBuilds Team
    Staff Member Moderator Builder Resident Builder

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2,059
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    ^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

    I've had to explain this several times in the last week.
     
    Giarc likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice