I recently purchased the X32 so I can use the interface with the CNC machine from openbuilds. Im switching from the XCarve controller. Everything seems to jog ok, home ok etc. 1. When using Control on the computer, seems there is no way to also use the Interface at the same time? - Control is connecting to the X32 via wifi. 2. When trying to start a job from the interface its seeming that its trying to start the carve backward. - When I homed and zeroed on the workspace, pressed go, the unit started jogging forward until it hit the hard limit. 3. When I connect the Control software from the computer and then click the disconnect button, the machine starts to go crazy speeding its way down the Y axis until it crashes. (Dangerous) I have to turn off the X32, then turn it back on again to reset.
1) Interface is a PC replacement. Use one, or the other. Not both 2) machine just follows the gcode. Check that you set up machine parameters like $3 Dir Invert etc correctly though Grbl v1.1 Configuration 3) not normal, but not sure what is incorrect. Check for EMI, try with Interface disconnected, uninstall any conflicting applications (old controller's software etc)
OK so with #3, I Unplugged the interface and it did not freak out. Thats a bummer as it would be nice to use the Jogging, start job, probing functions as a remote tool from the interface rather than the limited version of the Phone interface ;-) Seems like it would be a natural adaptation. Checking on $3 Function. - Is it possible to add a setup wizard for dialing in the settings (IE: What is the bed layout?) (Yes nice to learn about the in's and outs of Grbl, but would be seemingly a good idea for support issues). - If my jogs are moving in the correct location and the unit is homing correctly, I don't understand $3 Settings. Trying them out
Ok now when I inverse $3 (X and Y) the jog buttons do not align with what direction I am trying to go. Facing my Bed, my start point is Bottom Left. Is it possible that my Wires are backward? (There was really no instruction for (White, Red, Green Black wires).
See docs:blackbox-x32:faq-identify-motor-coils [OpenBuilds Documentation] but irrelevant for the direction config as you can set that with $3. Jog Directions should be correct first You did do Grbl set up right? Steps per mm, acceleration, etc. Use your old controller's settings as a guideline If it jogs right, then the gcode might be wrong. Or you forgot to setzero? Try docs:blackbox-4x:hello-world [OpenBuilds Documentation]
I will try Hello world. The issue is I have been using the same gcode for a number of carves with control. just using the Xcarve controller. Since i have rewired to the X32 i have been having lots of weird issues.
Growing pains. Tell us: We even have Backup / Restor built in to help you transfer old controller's settings Note any other workflow differences. Did you remember to set the Origin?
Yes I Did do a backup of the config, have not tried to restore, kind of nervous too now. Yes the origin is set correctly. How about the travel speed? Seems when I do a check size, its moving way too fast. The speed dials on the x32 are all the way down.
They are Current Adjustment. Not speed. docs:blackbox-x32:currentadjustment [OpenBuilds Documentation] All the way down likely under powers your motors. Please do read the BlackBox Docs too. Speeds, are more Grbl Parameters. Gotta read that Wiki.... Machine will feel great once its actually set up. Knowledge is power. Wiki and Docs are must reads
Sorry I take a minor offense to the "gotta read that Wiki" comment as I did attempt it multiple times. This is why I am here asking questions. Im trying real hard here to follow directions and do what the instructions are saying. Seems to me that many people come to openbuilds from having an XCarve doing an upgrade that by now there should be some easy guides to follow. Instead, I have to scour the forums searching for things that seem relevant but are not the same symptoms. So I do apologize Peter if I seem too much a noob here. Im trying. So with regards to the Grbl parameters, which parameter is it?z Also tried to Switch $3 X = Reversed and Y = reversed but didn't seem to work. Now it wants to go the opposite direction and hit limit switch.
That's the thing. All of them. Its a different machine. Use the Backup off the Old controller. If it was working, then you know those settings are good. Offence about the wiki: your choice. Reading the info is for your good. It doesn't affect me. It gives you the power to understand the parameters so even without the backup you know what they actually mean. Gives you the ability to tune them for optimal performance even better than your old controller's default profile. Enables you to change anything that doesn't play nicely after importing a 3rd party profile from Backup. Same with the openbuilds docs. Thinking those are Speed dials is detrimental to yourself. Reading it and knowing they are current Adjustment and actually needs to be set up correctly will avoid later frustrations with stalling or overheating. Knowing you didn't read that i wonder if you read sections 4, 7 etc of the BlackBox Documentation? Those are important steps that if skipped causes issues to you, so wouldn't you want to give yourself an easier time? Difference between Noob and Pro is just that. A little reading to empower yourself
Thanks for the clarification With regard to speed, I believe one of the topics I was reading was talking about speed and the adjustment of the current. Im just hoping you see my point in that the assumption that I did not read, was false. There is SOO much to read, and often times its skewed with old info or comments on the forum. OK So I did do a restore after another backup, it seems $3 was all set to reversed. Lots of other speed settings etc. So now my jogging seems to not align with Left Right Up Down. Y+ goes down X- goes right. Homing is not working again going wrong direction on Z For what its worth I followed this guy:
Then correct it with $3 until it is correct and once it jogs correctly (do that first) use $23 to tell the controller where the homing switches are (at axis Min or Max side of travel) Once its all working remember to take a new backup
OK so I put the $3 back to normal. Jogging is going the direction I am wanting it to go. Homing is working as well. Check size is still trying to go opposite of where its supposed to go. Verified Datum is set in VCarve correctly (As I expected due to cutting 50+ items from this file).
Did you do your SetZero before clicking Check Size. Did you try the Hello World (good shakedown with a known good gcode)
**** stupid... no I did not. Did that and boom seems to be ok so far. Might I suggest a workspace setup Wizard?
OK so now the next issue. The Z during cuts does not seem to be lowering very much. IE: Making stars with a 90 deg 1/4 bit. When zeroed it barely touches the wood for the carve unlike what it did before. Is this another Setting somewhere that has to be tweaked? - Remember this is a restored setting that was working fine on the Xcarve Controller now using the X32.
Great! Now do take a Backup and store it somewhere safe so you have a solid set of settings to fall back on
Yes Thanks for your help! Now I need to finish this large order! -Posted in the interfaces Forum about a Slave mode for Control allowing interface to work with. -Also would suggest maybe another wizard for Workspace setup. -I can write up an instruction for someone with X-Carve migrations if that works...
Wizard: no real need. Home, Probe or Zero, Run. Easy. Too much hand-holding gets on the nerves of people quickly. As you pick up skills power is everything. Non standard origins, jigs, recoveries all that stuff is on your path as you move forward. Don't let a wizard get in the way - learn to be in CONTROL yourself. Doing the Hello World as a first project teaches you that workflow. You are welcome to post your writeup as a Build including the working Grbl Settings backup. See the Builds tab for examples of others' writeups
Its interesting you say that when reading though the forums I believe you have a comment something to the likes of "Do note: CONTROL is aimed at beginners - so foolproof and easy to understand is key" I see a lot of repeating questions relating to similar problems I have had here. Might be worthy of a looks into ;-)
