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xPro V5 and HY VFD no comms with spindle

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  1. Lee Morse

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    Hi All,


    I have almost completed my first CNC build now using an xPro V5 with HY VFD, a 1.5kw spindle, but have run into an issue with controlling the spindle from the xPro V5 via the HY VFD.

    I am able to control the spindle directly from the VFD, I can start, speed it up, I can slow it down and stop etc.

    All of my stepper motors and limit switches work fine via the xPro V5 (I have been using CNCjs software to control the machine).

    However I cannot get the spindle to respond via the xPro V5. I have been trying for 2 days now to get it to work. It will not spin.
    • I have flipped the switch on the xPro V5 from EN/PMW over to RS485.
    • I have connected the RS485 A pin on the xPro V5 to RS+ on the VFD
    • I have connected the RS485 B pin on the xPro V5 to RS- on the VFD
    • I have programmed the VFD with the following settings:
    PD001 = 2

    PD002 = 2

    PD163 = 1

    PD164 = 1

    PD165 = 3

    • I have entered the following into CNCjs: $spindle/type=huanyang (I have also tried H2A)
    • This is what I see:
      • > $spindle/type=huanyang
      • Ok
    • I do not get any other messages. I was expecting to see some kind of confirmation of connectivity. I get no error messages.
    • If I enter “M3 8000” or try to start the spindle using CNCjs M3 buttons nothing happens.
    • I have checked the cabling and used a multimeter to check for continuity.
    • The RS485 cable is not near the Spindle cable. I don’t think it is any kind of electrical/ magnetic interference because the comms do not seem to be working, and the spindle does not start.
    Do I need to change the jumper in the VCD from the way it was shipped? The jumper block is currently connecting the right and middle pin.

    Have I missed a setting? Is there anything you can suggest? Please help ☹

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    It might be best to contact the vendor you purchased from for them to provide tech support.
     
  3. Lee Morse

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    Do you suspect a hardware issue?
     
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    recheck the jumper info. i missed that putting my 2.2kw unit together a few weeks ago and took mw a good while to work out what I missed.
     
  5. Lee Morse

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    What do you mean by this? Where can I find this?
     
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    Which model Hy is it?
     
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    HY01D523B
     
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    Also in PD001 on the VFD what is the setting you have there currently?
     
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    As listed above. PD001 = 2
     
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    check your messages...
     
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    This is exactly exactly my issue as well. Have you made any progress so far? I would love an update, thanks!
    Cheers.
     
  12. cory1987

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    I had a call with Lee the day he posted this and is yet to get an answer if I resolved his issue. Although I'm certain the build/info from his supplier is incorrect.
    I suggested not using the 460 cable connx and wire the VFD using the outputs from the V5. If you need help or aren't sure. Gimme a call [private info removed for your protection]
     
  13. Lee Morse

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    Hi All,
    I am currently in discussions with the supplier. I have performed a lot of tests that they instructed me to carry out. I currently believe that there is an issue with the xPro V5.

    Apparently the xPro V5 is supposed to make a clicking sound when you send it an M3 and an M5 signal (if connected to the VFD). Mine makes no sound at all. Also, when I send an M3 signal, I detect no voltage at the Toolhead port. The voltage should vary depending on the speed, e.g. M3 S5000, M3 S15000 etc.

    They aslo instructed me to open the xPro V5 to check if there is a jumer connected near the RELAY port, there should be, and on mine there is.

    I will update as soon as I have any more info.
     
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    Have you loaded the macro into it?
     
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    Here is a photo showing my jumper circled.
    No, I wanted to make sure I get feedback from the supplier first. I didn't want to risk them not giving me a replacement if there was a hardware issue. Is there something in the macro that you think might make a difference?
     
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    After more discussion with Cory I have got this working. I used the TOOLHEAD and RELAY port, but I also had to set the xPro V5 to $spindle/type=PWM.

    You are a hero Cory. Two months since I started my build and finally I can control my spindle from the xPro V5
     
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    Hi Lee !
    I have same issue : can you explain wiring ? I tried with TOOLHEAD and REPLAY, but no results..
    Thanks !
     
  18. BBLaurentG

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    Hi Cory !
    I have same issue : can you explain wiring ? I tried with TOOLHEAD and REPLAY, but no results..
    Thanks !
     
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    Hello Everyone,

    I'm new to the community.
    I have exactely the same issue as Lee.
    Can you Cory or anybody else explain step by step how to solve it?

    Thanks so much!!!!
     
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    Hi Cory, My son and I just finished same build and have same issue. Can you send me the wiring rework and commands to change?
     
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    Good afternoon Cory. I have completed my build, WorkBee Ultimate, Spark Xpro v5 controller, Huanyang, and Openbuilds. Everything is working except that I cannot start/stop the 2.2 spindle from Openbuilds? It seems to be the same problem as all the others above and I would appreciate you assistance. The link from Xpro V5 is RS485 to the Huanyang and USB to my laptop and Openbuilds. I have not used the toolhead or the relay ports. Can yo provide the wiring diagram and any Grbl, or Huanyand changes that I must make? Your assistance will be much appreciated
     
  22. Tony Magrini

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    I have a few questions obviously many people are having this issue so whats so hard about posting a wiring Diagram from the XproV5 to the HY VFD ?? I have tried numerous times to contact Xpro support and they do not answer anything, Very dissapointed I purchased this Item and spent good money for ZERO support from them and the same exact thing goes for the HY VFD,going on 4 days now from both vendors with no answer, The guys from 3d Commander (nighthawk) have tried to help me since Im tring to use their soft ware and their support for someone who has not even purchased their product was very nice of them

    Can someone please post a wiring diagram for this I have looked everywhere and have found nothing/ I have seen other controllers and the HY with wiring diagrams but why nothing for the XproV5 ??

    Cory if I can only get this info from a PM could you please send me the info so I can get my machine running Im not trying to be an *** here butits very frustrating that you can buy a controller and a VFD and get zero suppoirt from either vendor
     
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    Might be a good idea to consider a BlackBox? docs:blackbox-x32:connect-vfd [OpenBuilds Documentation]
     
  24. Tony Magrini

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    So someone else in the thread got help with this (Xpro and HY VFD) and my help is an option to buy a black box ? You might think its a good idea to keep throwing money at a hobby where you get zero support but i dont.
    You tell people to contact vendors who give zero support and thats exactly why i considered the Nighthawk because even though I did not buy one item from CNC 3d they still tried to help me. I guess buying the open builds machine was not good enough thank for the help. What might be a good idea is to learn good Customer service that might gte you more sales.
     
  25. Peter Van Der Walt

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    OpenBuilds did not supply the xPro V5s, so we cannot assist with it. We never did sell the V5s. Neither did we supply the VFD
    We do support the products bought from us (or our resellers) after all, but we cannot help with 3rd party controllers from 3rd party vendors...
    See Post #2 in this thread
    Well yes, that is how it should be. If you bought your controller from us we'd be able to help. Best of luck further
     
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