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Why am I cutting air?

Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by galtjunk, Apr 16, 2025 at 11:51 AM.

  1. galtjunk

    galtjunk New
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    I home the machine and set xyz to zero.
    I probe with the open builds probe.
    When I run the gcode it raises the z and executes the program but the z is way too high.
    This same code was working when I used it a month ago.
    I am working with a 3/4 piece of mdf.

    T1
    G17
    G20
    G90
    G0Z0.8000
    G0X0.0000Y0.0000
    S16000M3
    G0X3.9330Y10.0384Z0.2000
    G1Z0.0000F15.0
    G1X3.7850Y10.0007Z-0.0134
    G1X3.7513Y9.9920Z-0.0164
    G1X3.7176Y9.9829Z-0.0195
    G1X3.6840Y9.9736Z-0.0225
    G1X3.6505Y9.9640Z-0.0256
    G1X3.6171Y9.9541Z-0.0286
     
  2. David the swarfer

    David the swarfer OpenBuilds Team
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    obviously the probe did not set Z zero at the surface of the material.
    which exact probe option did you use?
    if you click 'gotoZero' does it go to the correct 0,0,0 position on the material?
     
  3. galtjunk

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    goto work zero sends it to the correct position on the material.

    running the code causes it to lift the z axis and start cutting air.
     
  4. Alex Chambers

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    As @David the swarfer said plus, if you are setting XYZ zero immediately after homing that is not necessary. Homing sets your machine coordinates system and probing will set the workplace coordinate system zero.

    Alex.
     
  5. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Probing correct then


    Can you hear Z suffering, stalling, grinding or anything during Z moves?
    Anything loose or binding?
    Z-Axes acceleration/max rate tuned for reliability?
    Newly set up machine - or old setup with new issues?
     
  6. galtjunk

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    no issues with z moves.
    This is an old working setup.
     
  7. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    Any recent changes, like installing a new controller, new version of a CAM application, anything at all?

    Grbl Settings backup for review? (CONTROL > Grbl settings tab > Backup Settings button on main toolbar)
     
  8. Giarc

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    Did you buy chance tell vectric you were zeroing on the Bed and not the top of the work piece?
     
  9. galtjunk

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    No hardware or software changes.
    Working zero is going to the front, left with the z touching the top of the work piece.
     
  10. Peter Van Der Walt

    Peter Van Der Walt OpenBuilds Team
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    Remember to post the settings for review
     
  11. Christian James

    Christian James Journeyman
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    Yes indeed Craig. If it's set to "zero" off the bed but probed off the material surface, then you will get the exact problem that the OP describes. He hasn't actually stated that he's checked that setting in Vectric so who knows.
     
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