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Discussion in 'Laser Cutters' started by Mark Carew, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. WayTooManyHobbies

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    A constant force spring is also a suggestion. Example - Source - Another Source

    But we digress as this is a subject for another thread. Please try to keep the ACRO thread focused on question/comments about the ACRO system.
     
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    Wow, quiet on the thread.
    I've finished my Acro build, and things are now running. I have the 20" square model, and am using an Arduino/Protoneer CNC setup with GRBL v1.1f, a 2.3W Sanwu laser module (often marketed as Eleksmaker, but apparently someone just "borrows" Eleksmaker's name), along with LaserGRBL and Laserweb.

    So far, I've been pretty pleased. The Acro system was easy to assemble, and the build instruction video is quite good. The Protoneer board is very nice, much better than the cheap clones available on Amazon. The laser seems to have plenty of power to engrave wood and paper, and will also cut 1/16" wood in one pass. That's the extent of my experience so far, since time during the week is very scarce.
     
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    Obligatory laser death ray video - the loud background noise is the combination of the power supply fan and the laser fan.
    Wow - can't really see anything in that video file. I bet you can guess the wavelength of my laser, though!
    Also, the laser glasses that came with my module are frightening - they seem to amplify a green laser pointer beam, so I didn't even try them. I ordered alternate glasses made by Eagle Pair, and they block everything. Since I can still see, that's probably the best bet.
     

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    Cool man good to see you having fun with it and staying safe! Looking forward to see the Projects you make on your ACRO! :thumbsup:
    If you have a link to the Eagle glasses your using could you please share? Thanks
    Mark
     
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    The glasses I'm using are from Survival Laser - you can see all of their glasses at Safety Goggles. Make sure to select the correct ones for your laser death ray wavelength!

    Also, I've seen quite a few glasses with deceptive names to try and "borrow" Eagle Pair's reputation. Caveat Emptor!
     
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    Thingiverse? (;

    download.jpg

     

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    Just wanted to say, my Acro system is working fantastic!
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    I am near the end of my build of the OpenBuilds 20x20 ACRO (bundle kit) with OptLasers PLH3D-6W-XF laser head, along with the CNC xPro V3 controller. I have the frame assembled and wired up. The X and Y axes are moving under GRBL control. I still need to tune the motor current pots and get the laser hooked up to power. This is my first CNC build and it went together refreshingly easy, other than some missing M5 screws.

    I do have a question about the stepping jumper settings on the xPro. The instructions on OpenBuilds say to use 1/16 stepping but there are comments in this forum that mention using 1/32 stepping. Is 1/32 stepping preferred if using the xPro v3, or should I stick with 1/16?

    --thanks, Ed
     
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    I am using an XproV3. I set mine at 1/16 and get great resolution. And I believe 1/16 is the recommended setting. I do wish there was something in the instructions about setting the jumpers though. My V3 came set at 1/8. So my first etch was twice as large as it was supposed to be. Haha
     
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    I recieved and installed my acro 1m x 1,5m. And did some succesful test runs with the grbl software. Thanks to @WildBill for the tip for the z-axis mechanism (is it possible to attach a limit switch to this?). Did anybody install a cable chain or limit switches to there system X-Y axis? Also at what voltage do you run your system? I have the cnc shield on a arduino uno for controlling the system. Thanks :)
     

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    ACRO Laser Cable Chains by 3boysdad

    I've put this one together for my cable management. Requires two small drill holes in one of the y-axis plates, but otherwise uses existing holes on the plates.
     
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    I did something similar with mine, but used one of the enclosed 90 degree brackets and existing holes. I'm now in the process of installing a larger chain for the other axis. I plan to use V-Rail Power Supply Mount by jwellman to mount the power supply to the back rail.
     

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    finally building my 40x40 Acro....just waiting on a missing belt. I'm using an Arduino Uno with CNC shield. Haven't bought my laser module yet as I'm still torn between which one I want. On the fence between a 6W, 10W, and 15W (but leaning towards a 6W since I've noticed that is the normal constant wattage even for the more powerful ones). I'm hoping to be able to cut 1/8" ply and 1/4" acrylic as well as etching.

    I am planning on running mine at 1/32 step which is what I have set the shield jumpers to.

    My questions:
    1 - If anyone is running the same setup, can you post your GRBL settings please?

    2 - Those are running 6W or better lasers (other than the two listed by openbuilds), can you post a pic and where you bought/cost? Definitely want a 3-wire laser (TTL/PWM)

    3 - How about posting your completed laser - pics (I figure 3 pics: 1 of the whole system, 1 of the laser, and 1 of the electronics).
     
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    I purchased a relatively cheap 14 watt laser from eBay. Shipped from China. I don’t have anything to compare laser power to or measure it in any way. The seller claimed it should etch stone and stainless steel. Infact, they included a sample stainless dog tag to play with. I was able to etch a VERY small logo in the stainless, with very very slow speeds. 1 mm/min. however I could only see it under direct bright light. To the naked eye, it was hardly visible... I would assume they are exaggerating it’s capabilities and power level. Like I said, I don’t have anything to compare it to.

    It does etch wood very well, and using slower speeds, I have been able to cut through 1/8” black acrylic and 1/4” pine with a three passes (no change to z height). So, for what I paid for it, I am satisfied with I have. For now.... :)
     
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    I'm running the same electronics that you are using, and it works nicely. My laser is only 2.3W, though - good for etching wood, cuts thin wood and paper readily, but probably not much more than that. Here's a picture of the entire setup, and a closer shot of the laser. I'll post the GRBL setup later, since I'm running something now. IMG_20180101_161222823.jpg IMG_20180101_161217575.jpg
     
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    Thanks for your posts. I've been looking at a 17W with TTL/PWM. (8W constant). I figure, if I'm gonna buy, might as well just buy once heheh.

    ACRO all built up. Now, will just wait on receiving the laser module (and the one missing belt). I'll post a pic once I get the laser mtd. figure it may be a week or two (or three)...

    WayTooManyHobbies, yes please post your GRBL settings...no rush tho :) Thank you
     
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    Here's my GRBL config - sorry for the delay, I forgot!
     

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    WayTooManyHobbies, can you post your Arduino file as well plz?
     
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    Sorry, I don't understand. The only Arduino file besides the GRBL configuration parameters is the hex file that I flashed for GRBL 1.1f. That was downloaded from the GRBL github site. I've compiled it in the past, but in this case it was easier to just grab the pre-compiled version.
     
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    Yeah, sorry....so use to having to set/change Arduino setting for drones.... I just realized that Arduino works with the GRBL coding lol
     
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    I ordered the ACRO system with CNC xPro board. I am planning to build a two-in-one machine - a 3D printer and an engraver. I'll use the stepper motors, PSU, and extruders from a 3D printer that broke down. The PSU outputs 24VDC. I'll use the engraving head from a CNC engraving machine that is too small. The engraving head has 12VDC motor. I'll use the parts from the CNC engraving machine to make Z-Axis motion actuator.

    The 3D printer is this: Micro Center - Computers and Electronics

    The CNC engraving machine is this: Micro Center - Computers and Electronics.

    I am worried about the plastic parts used in the ACRO system because they may not be strong enough. Any suggestions?
     
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    3d printer u should be ok . does the cnc pro have inouts for the heater on the hot end ? the engraver not to sure about i have a few parts in thingiverse that could help. im about to load two more parts to the acro system group or just search my screen name
     
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    I took the broken 3D printer apart and took the stepper motors and cables from it for use on the ACRO machine. I think that the CNC xPro board is not suitable for 3D printer. I can't find out if the engraving motor is 12VDC or 24VDC. The engraving motor is about the same diameter as the stepper motor and about two times longer than the stepper motor. There's no markings or labels on the engraving motor. Are there boards suitable for both 3D printers and CNC routers?
     
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    Smoothieboard will run either a printer or a CNC router.
     
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    as far as the engraver motor i would look at the power supply that would tell u the voltage
     
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    I thought that the engraving machine has a 12V external power supply similar to what notebook computers use but I just found out that the power supply is 24VDC. I'm not sure if I want to order the Smoothieboard now or wait until after I build the new machine and use the CNC xPro board. On Amazon website, there are SmoothieWare boards but they get poor reviews.
     
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    It looks like the OpenBuilds store is out of stock, but you can get the Smoothie board at Uberclock (Smoothieboard 4x – Uberclock). Panucatt (Controllers) is another alternative for Smoothieware-compatible boards - just make sure the specs match what you are looking for.
     
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    all the sizes use the same profiles? 2020 and 2040?
     

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