Hi all, I have searched high and low for information on the Black Box power supply and I have left numerous comments on the Open Builds You Tube channel so this is my last try here. Does the black box work with any 24v power supply or does it have to have the 24V Meanwell Power Supply from OB?? THX
Negative, not only won't it work, 12v is generally a bad choice (lower acceleration, lower power, less torque, and of course then incompatible with all other components) Also, avoid "LED psus" and other nonsense cheap PSUs like that, they tend to have unfilltered outputs with surges that can destroy BlackBox (which is then not covered under warranty). Get the proper one: 24V Meanwell Power Supply Bundle
thing is i just bought it from ooznest and they dont say you need a specific 24v power supply on their description page let alone the power supply you suggested seems pretty misleading and i feel like its a cost openbuilds/ooznest is hiding from the consumer, this is bad practice and it is openbuilds responsibility to inform us even though openbuilds is supplying to another company. also what your saying in your post is that if i dont buy the openbuilds power supply and my unit blows up its not under warranty but if you scroll above rick 2.0 from the open builds team says you can use any power 24v power supply now im stuck with a unit that you say i need a specific psu for! the black box is expensive enough but having being told i need to spend another £50 on a power supply i can get for £20 is infuriating !!! that being said your supplying to a company in the uk that doesn't supply your psu how am i meant to use the black box now ?
I asked the same question back in June 2019 and I thought OB would have addressed the issue. At the time I bought my BlackBox the OB PSU wasn't in stock so after more research it was suggested buying a GOOD quality PSU, not a cheap Chinese knock off. Nowhere does OB state you MUST use their PSU BUT I would have used it if it was available. My BB has worked flawlessly! I am really happy with it!
Relax! You can get any PSU you want, just keep in mind if you blow up a Blackbox BECAUSE it was a Bad PSU, the BlackBox warranty may not apply, simple as that. Think about it for a second if one bad component damages another component, who are you supposed to be angry at (; If you buy a PSU you trust, it won't blow up so no need to get excited! - If Ooznest sold you the PSU they'll probably make good even if it does cause damage. The statement is more about the "I got a $5 PSU off Ebay and now my BlackBox is smoking..." They are pretty bulletproof (; - most components on there are well overrated and designed to be quite resillient... can take quite some pretty good surges - so just imagine how bad (deadly) some of those knockoff PSUs must be to pop a 63v rated cap!
Certainly: 24V Meanwell Power Supply Bundle and the datasheet at https://www.meanwell.com/Upload/PDF/LRS-350/LRS-350-SPEC.PDF Meanwell is a good trusted brand, and the LRS350 is just a nice slimline package, as long as its some (any, Meanwell or others) well recognised quality brand you should be safe. the PowerCase add-on just helps make wiring a little easier and encloses the mains terminals for you - optional, but nice
Hi @lexi chambers, why don't you check with Ooznest what power supply they recommend - their power supplies range from £19.80 to £29.15. They will not give you bad advice. Alex.
peter i was talking to CNR when i requested the links lol but still openbuilds should really specify what power supply is needed i am running a 12v system at the moment i didn't know i needed to buy a 24v power supply at time of purchase for the black box, if it was stated on ooznest web site and openbuilds part store i may have thought twice about buying it or factored into the budget a power supply. hey alex yes ill have to ask them tomorrow peter appreciate the info but if ooznest cannot recommend one of their power supplies i will unfortunately be returning the blackbox to them i just don't have the budget to have the black box blow up on me and have it not covered by warranty
Sorry! Tip if theres more than one person in a conversation, you can tag specific people for example, hey @crnrstndes now I'm talking to you! Sorry, it is mentioned on our store, docs, and labelled on the BlackBox near the power input, but yes, I do agree it could be more clear at the store side of things so you make the right choice at checkout, will make sure we add it somewhere. It's remote as can be! Read my original post again, I warned you about the "LED PSU" kind of crap you can find on ebay/amazon - sold for incredibly low prices, because they are stripped of all mains isolation, filtering and soft start circuitry. Fine for powering LED strips, not for anything else. But as you are in the market for a 24v PSU I mentioned it as they do show up first when shopping for lowest price. Was just supposed to be some helpful advice. In a couple thousand BlackBoxes out the door I've seen it happen 3 times where users had bad and dangerous PSUs. You anyway do not want that kind of PSU near you as a person either unless you like being electrocuted. It's illogical to return the BlackBox and insist on buying a bad PSU, any other controller you add in front of a PSU with 100+volt surges will also be damaged (their vendors will check what caused it too), and also any other connected peripherals (PC, motors, anything else thats connected) will likely suffer too - so thats not even an option!
@lexi chambers The type of PSU Peter is talking about (I believe) is one specifically used with LED lighting, most are from China and they ARE dangerous! Like I said, the BlackBox I have has been working great for over 9 months. I didn't cheap out on my PSU but I didn't break the bank either, mid range. I had to upgrade to a 24v PSU when I got the BB as well from my 12v that ran my Arduino BUT as I said in another post the Blackbox has elevated my CNC expertise (Thanks to Peter and Swarmer) because it allowed me to home my machine, Zero it and do accurate bit changes. Something I could never have setup on my Arduino, not a techie but a woodworker. So for me if you want to really up your game, keep the Blackbox (unless you are a techie and you can get by without the upgrade LOL)! Just my opinion of course!
Howdy all... Happy New Year! Hey, what's with all this badmouthing Chinese PSU's? 99% of Meanwell's low end PSU's like the LRS-350 are Chinese... That said, Meanwell does make a pretty reliable product at a decent price point (about $30 on Amazon for the aforementioned LRS350 , 24V ~14.6 amp), and I've run a 150-12 Taiwanese Meanwell for literally years, but I've also been using been using a cheap ($18.95 on Amazon) "Newstyle" 350-24, 15 amp for about 3 years now and haven't had any issues with my controller or drivers. The question here is warranty. Manufacturers and resellers like Openbuilds, Oozenest...etc. They test their hardware with certain kit and make a decision to warranty certain setups. It's a judgement call. It makes business sense. *Truth be told, this hobby is the proverbial black-hole from which no pocket book can ever escape. Once you take the red pill it's all over. It's awesome though, when you crank out your first project! Have a blast!
nowhere did i say i was going to buy a cheap psu and i understand now what peter was trying to explain maybe he could have explained it in a different way as it came across as though i needed to use this specific type of psu which is not the case i was just angry at the fact that we was not told that we would need a 24v powersupply before we purchased the blackbox it was never specified on the product page and the fact that peter suggested that the unit would possibly blow up and it would be out of warranty if i didnt use what he tried to specify for me got me wound up, its fine guys hubby says he will purchase one from ooznest and hopefully i wont have any problems i appreciate all the input NthAxisWorkshop i have also been using a cheap chinese power supply for my 12v system which i got from ebay and have had no problems so i concur was going to use it for the blackbox but now i know i cannot, currently i'm using a arduino uno with tb6600 drivers but we are getting to many problems now with missing steps etc its only when i plug in the z axis i get the problems so figured it was the drivers thats why the upgrade to the black box thanks again all
Just to clear things i have just added an extra bullet point saying the PSU is not included to our site (Ooznest). As always at Ooznest we stand by our customer service, so you can be assured if anything was to break, it would be rectified quickly . Ryan
Hello, I am trying to wire up my new Black Box to the Meanwell power supply without the Open Builds special attachment. I am disappointed in the instructions for they only show how to connect to their special attachment. Also the lack of being upfront with everything needed for this build. If someone has a picture or documentation of the wiring from HY VFD to power supply then from power supply to the black box I would greatly appreciate the help ! Thank you in advance
