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  1. KEITHABEAR

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    Do I need a special USB cable
    We installed black box and OpenBuild Control says waiting for USB

    Running Windows 8.1
    Can't get passed waiting for usb

    Unplugged USB then plunged back got passed waiting for USB now we don't have home all
    Try to jog XYZ makes a lot of noise
     
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  3. KEITHABEAR

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    Restarted computer now home all is on but must have wired steeper motors wrong because moves in the right direction but jerks and loud noise. Red,Blue,Green,Yellow
    Could it be something in control settings
     
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    Wire colors do not matter, the wires need to be paired properly. If they are OpenBuilds steppers, the color codes should work, but not all manufacturers use the same color pairs if they are not from OpenBuilds.

    There may also be loose wires causing the problem.
     
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  5. KEITHABEAR

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    I am using NEMA 23s from OpenBuild
     
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    The color pairs should be right then. Is there a chance a wire is loose on the offending motor?
     
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  7. KEITHABEAR

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    On the black box the USB light blinking red
     
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    Sorry, I do not know what that means. I have a BlackBox, but the machine it is for has yet to be built so I have not taken the time to read the documentation yet.
     
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    Have you checked for loose wires yet? Power off the black box when you do so you do not fry any electronics.
     
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  10. KEITHABEAR

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    Check all wires
     
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    Is everything still moving but just noisily? Like you previously said?
     
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    No problem found with wires

    Yes

    We just noticed that Z is moving in the same direction when jogging

    Screenshot (45).png
     
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    Green = rx
    Red = tx
    Really means nothing, just blinking to show transfer of data.
     
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  16. KEITHABEAR

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    Unplugged everything still the same
    Tried to upload a video file unable to
     
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    Think back to when it was working before, what did you change/connect that might have damaged it
     
  18. KEITHABEAR

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    It never did work right but when it did move the X Y moved in the right direction but skipped real bad and the Z moved in only one direction also skipped real bad. I tripled checked with volt meter that the wires were running to the right stepper motor . I also noticed that the USB light on controller blinking and the 4 stepper motor indicator lights never came on
     
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    I took controller apart don't see any thing burned
     
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    Again, refer to docs:blackbox:faq-identify-motor-coils [OpenBuilds Documentation] for that issue. Ignore the color code and identify the coils. Read section 1 at the top of that page too...

    Thats not what the docs asks you to do. Its not about 'to the right stepper motor' - rather about identifying which two wires have coils between them. Read the link above please, or ask a friend to give it a 3rd party look over after reading the link.

    All that means is PC talking to Grbl. Rx/tx LEDs.
    Did mention that above too :)

    They only come on for certain faults.
    - overtemp (check fan, adjust current down)
    - over current (adjust current down)
    - undervoltage (check psu)
    - short circuit (check wiring, but your fault above is the exact opposite. Not a short but rather an open connection)
     
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    Tried everything you suggested nothing works, reinstalled X-PRO controller works fine.
     

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