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  1. eric weatherman

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    Hi, I've been trying to update my firmware on my black box and I keep running into the same error.
    When I go through the wizard setup I keep getting a failure. My blackbox is older so maybe I doing the wrong steps? I can't seem to upload firmware to the interface either would appreciate any guidance. The pics are when I tried to update blackbox firmware and not the interface

    Thank you,

    Eric
     

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    How old? Is it a BlackBox x32?
     
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    I think so, that is what comes up with controller screen in pic I took. Does it say anywhere inside black box I can look?
     
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    Look at the device itself. Is it the old 4X or the new X32

    Screenshot_2024-05-05-21-49-42-75_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg
     
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    It’s the 4x
     
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    There are no updates available for it (note the tabs in the flashing wizard. Only X32 and Interface)

    Grbl is by now retired so no new versions of firmware for the older controllers anymore. No need though its all stable. Newer firmware like grblHAL needs a newer controller like the X32.
     
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    Ok understand on black box, would the interface I have work with the new x32?
     
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    It could be retrofitted (newer Interfaces work a little better with the X32 though): docs:interface:retrofit-x32 [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    But if theres nothing wrong with your 4X - whats really going on here? Why are you trying to update firmware? What are you looking for / looking to do? Or is it broken?
     
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    Originally it wasn’t jogging correctly. Took a while to trace out but noticed that the power section in the black box had a broken solder joint. I’ve fixed that and everything seems to working correctly now, during this process I notice that the firmware no longer updates and was trying to understand why
     
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    Ahh OK, helps to begin an issue with the right question off the get go.

    Let me guess? That message was on the Interface's LCD?

    If so, you were almost on the right path. But its not the BlackBox firmware thats out of date, its Interface's (its telling you it itself is unable to check): Should be on V1.58:
    docs:interface:firmware-update [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    Not the BlackBox - seperate firmwares (;

    USB cable into Interface, and CONTROL's flashing wizard on the Interface tab. Flash V1.58. Follow instructions in documentation

    Weird jogging issue could have been a bad GND so good catch, but if it returns it could also be EMI or a bad Power supply.
     
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    Yes that is correct
     
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    Thank you for all the assistance, I’ll look at the interface update and watch for potential emi/ power supply
     

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