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Blackbox x32 Servo connection

Discussion in 'Controller Boards' started by lizard, May 2, 2023.

  1. lizard

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    I am just testing the new blackbox and can't get it to activate the servo. I have tried a few different servos. I hear a faint click but get no action on pen up/pen down or trying to calibrate it in OpenBuilds control. What could I be doing wrong?

    $33 is set to 50
     
  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Please post a Grbl Settings backup, lets just make sure all the other settings are correct too
     
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    Here they are:
     
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    $0=10.0 ; Step pulse time, microseconds
    $1=255 ; Step idle delay, milliseconds
    $2=0 ; Step pulse invert, mask
    $3=1 ; Step direction invert, mask
    $4=0 ; Invert step enable pin, boolean
    $5=7 ; Invert limit pins, boolean/mask
    $6=1 ; Invert probe pin, boolean
    $7=0 ; Disable spindle with 0 speed, boolean
    $8=0 ; Ganged axes direction invert as bitfield
    $10=511 ; Status report options, mask
    $11=0.010 ; Junction deviation, millimeters
    $12=0.002 ; Arc tolerance, millimeters
    $13=0 ; Report in inches, boolean
    $14=0 ; Limit pins invert, mask
    $15=0 ; Coolant pins invert, mask
    $16=0 ; Spindle pins invert, mask
    $17=0 ; Control pins pullup disable, mask
    $18=0 ; Limit pins pullup disable, mask
    $19=0 ; Probe pin pullup disable, boolean
    $20=0 ; Soft limits enable, boolean
    $21=0 ; Hard limits enable, boolean
    $22=0 ; Homing cycle enable, boolean (Grbl) / mask (GrblHAL)
    $23=7 ; Homing direction invert, mask
    $24=100.0 ; Homing locate feed rate, mm/min
    $25=1000.0 ; Homing search seek rate, mm/min
    $26=250 ; Homing switch debounce delay, milliseconds
    $27=5.000 ; Homing switch pull-off distance, millimeters
    $28=0.100 ; G73 retract distance, in mm
    $29=0.0 ; Step pulse delay (ms)
    $30=255.000 ; Maximum spindle speed, RPM
    $31=0.000 ; Minimum spindle speed, RPM
    $32=0 ; Laser-mode enable, boolean
    $33=50.0 ; Spindle PWM frequency
    $34=0.0 ; Spindle off Value
    $35=0.0 ; Spindle min value
    $36=100.0 ; Spindle max value
    $37=0 ; Stepper deenergize mask
    $39=1 ; Enable printable realtime command characters, boolean
    $40=0 ; Apply soft limits for jog commands, boolean
    $43=1 ; Homing passes
    $44=3 ; Homing cycle 1
    $45=0 ; Homing cycle 2
    $46=0 ; Homing cycle 3
    $62=0 ; Sleep Enable
    $63=2 ; Feed Hold Actions
    $64=0 ; Force Init Alarm
    $65=0 ; Require homing sequence to be executed at startup
    $70=7 ; Network Services
    $73=1 ; Wifi Mode
    $74=creacluster.at ; Wifi network SSID
    $75=REDACTED ; Wifi network PSK
    $100=57.143 ; X-axis steps per millimeter
    $101=57.143 ; Y-axis steps per millimeter
    $102=57.143 ; Z-axis steps per millimeter
    $110=5000.000 ; X-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    $111=5000.000 ; Y-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    $112=5000.000 ; Z-axis maximum rate, mm/min
    $120=500.000 ; X-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    $121=500.000 ; Y-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    $122=500.000 ; Z-axis acceleration, mm/sec^2
    $130=1300.000 ; X-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    $131=1300.000 ; Y-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    $132=70.000 ; Z-axis maximum travel, millimeters
    $300=Grbl ; Hostname
    $302=192.168.5.1 ; IP Address
    $303=192.168.5.1 ; Gateway
    $304=255.255.255.0 ; Netmask
    $305=23 ; Telnet Port
    $306=80 ; HTTP Port
    $307=81 ; Websocket Port
    $341=0 ; Tool Change Mode
    $342=30.0 ; Tool Change probing distance
    $343=25.0 ; Tool Change Locate Feed rate
    $344=200.0 ; Tool Change Search Seek rate
    $345=100.0 ; Tool Change Probe Pull Off rate
    $370=0 ; Invert I/O Port Inputs (mask)
    $384=0 ; Disable G92 Persistence
    $I=acro1515pen
     

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    Just wanted to check in again. I haven't got it to work yet. Steppers working great though
     
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    I am getting a little bit of action in the low part of the range (0-20) but otherwise it is acting strange. I'll keep playing.
     
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    It works only in a very low range (13-30) on a variety of my crappy and not so crappy servos, 9g micro servos. Couldn't be a setting issue? Would it be a problem to run it just in this low range? I would prefer not for control issues
     
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    Okay wired it with additional PSU option, plugged in with 5v and tried 6v, and the servo is still limited. After around 31, it stops responding....

    I have tried with three different servos. Each has the same problem.
     
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    I have been playing around with $30 and it seems that as I raise it the range expands but is still limited (although less so)

    Above 1800, I get action from 44-255

    At 1000, I had action from 26-133 approx

    when it was the default 255, this is when I was getting only action really between 8-33

    But it still seems strange, does this point to a complete solution? I am quite out of my depth
     
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    Please contact the store via Support > New Ticket - including a link to this thread and they'd be happy to help you sort it out
     
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    Thanks, this is interesting!

    Footnote 13 says:

    13 Set $33=50 (PWM frequency), $34=5, $35=5 and $36=10 to generate a "standard" PWM signal: 20ms repetition rate, 1 - 2ms pulse length range.

    If I change my settings to:

    $30 = 255
    $33 = 50
    $34 = 5
    $35 = 5
    $36 = 10

    Then I get action at all 1-255 positions. The only problem now is that the range of motion is only 90 degrees. Ideas?
     
  15. terjeio

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    Motor spec is?

    I've checked the generated pulse train and the pulse widths are between 1 and 2ms as they should.

    You may decrease $34 and $35 to output a shorter pulse than 1ms at min, and increase $36 to get a longer pulse than 2ms at max.
    FYI the servo I have moves 180 degrees when $34 and $35 are set to 2 and $36 to 15 - resulting in a 0.4 - 3ms pulse witdh range.
     
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    that is normal for some RC servos, though nearly 180 is a bit more common.
     
  17. lizard

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    Pulse width is 900-2100μs, so then it would be 4.5 and 10.5 for the range I think? When I do this maybe I get 100 degrees, but also if that is normal that is okay and it will work for me, although servo specs say 180 degrees
     
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    Okay when I use these numbers:

    I get pretty much 180 degrees. Is this okay to continuously run if my pulse width is 900-2100μs for the servo?

    sorry, most of this is gibberish to me, but also seems like we are almost at the solution
     
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    I guess so, ask the servo supplier or manufacturer if in doubt.

    > sorry, most of this is gibberish to me

    $33 = 50Hz = 20ms (1/50s) repetion rate, $34-$36 are percentages of this.
     

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