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Dial in my stepper accuracy with my OB's Blackbox

Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by KCollins, Aug 11, 2023.

  1. KCollins

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    So I cut a test block on my Ultimate Bee CNC using OpenBuild's Blackbox X32.

    The test block dimensions are attached.

    I also attached my cut numbers.

    Can anyone help me dial my Blackbox in tighter than the numbers I am getting? Or is this as good as it gets?
     

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  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Did you Calibrate?

    Wizards and tools > Calibration menu in CONTROL:

     
  3. KCollins

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    I did... This was as close as I could get.
     
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    I'm going to go try it again.
     
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    Then its as calibrated as you can do in Software. Rest boils down to how well the machine itself is set up. Tramming: A generic guideline amongst others
     
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    It is dialed in tight on tramming. I saw to that... I would assume if I jogged my machine 100mm I would get 100mm. Not 99.025. Can the BB be that accurate?
     
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    It is that accurate. Any deviation is mechanical. Which has hundreds of sources. Calibration, backlash, deflection, wheel adjustment, etc
    Jogs should be quite accurate though. 99/100 is either a loose shaft coupler setscrew, or didn't complete the calibration wizards (remember to reboot controller for changed settings to take effect)
     
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    Awesome thanks Peter... I'll keep putzing with it.
     
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    do the calibration over a long distance, not just the default 100mm
    so if you can do 1000mm (or a yard) then use that.
    if you still come up wrong, then check your measuring tool (-: they are not all created equal, esp tapemeasures, that tag on the end for hooking onto edges is pretty much always too long or short by 1/16", so start your measuring at the 100mm mark and measure from there to 1100mm, for example.
     
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    Well... I am frustrated beyond words right now after spending the weekend trying to get this BlackBox dialed in. It WILL NOT CALIBRATE!!!! On one attempt I was calibrating my Y axis. I jogged 100mm. The actual distance was 102.32. So I went to the wizard. Jogged it 10mm and zeroed my caliper. I then jogged it the recommended 100mm and got 102.25 so I entered that number into the wizard. I then zeroed my caliper and jogged it back 100mm. I got 90.89. So I zeroed it and jogged it another 100mm. My number was 90.93. So I jogged back to my beginning 100mm and I got zero. I jogged it 100mm again and got 90.93. So I brought it back to the beginning of my caliper and went to the wizard. I jogged it 10mm and zeroed my caliper. Clicked on the next step in the wizard and jogged it 100mm. My number was 90.97mm. So I entered that into the wizard. I then zeroed my caliper and jogged it back to the beginning and got 110.07mm… I am truly at a loss. This is just a couple attempts I mentioned.

    I should add that I anchored a caliper to my spoilboard and to my spindle so my measurements are digital.

    I should also mention this BlackBox is running a SPAM's Ultimate Bee 1000x1500 and I assure you all of it is TIGHT... It is running Ball Screws and Lineal Rails and there is zero give in this thing. At least not in the numbers I mentioned above.

    So any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    Kevin
     
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    you are resetting the BB after changing parameters, right?
     
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    As @David the swarfer said, go much longer than 100mm. Mine is dialed in at 1000mm. when I send mine 1000mm, it goes exactly 1000mm. When I first started calibrating it at 1000mm, it was off by about 0.5mm in that length. I would never have noticed that error at 100mm. I have not had any accuracy issues with my BlackBox once I had it calibrated.
     

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