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Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by SCYBUCK, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. Anthony Bolgar

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  2. Michael.M

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    There's another maker by the name Beardyblair that built an XL Sphinx with similar specs. I would link the build but don't know how. To be honest, you may have to do some reinforcement mods to keep the deflection down. I know for sure you will see a little flex when milling hard materials towards the center of that 1000mm cbeam but maybe the added weight of the spindle will mitigate this some. If I were doing a build that was 1000mm wide with a 2.2kw spindle, I would consider designing a dual cbeam X axis. You may not have any issues if you take really conservative cuts. Of course, I don't personally have experience with that exact setup but you could ask Beardyblair. I know on my 500mm wide Sphinx, I could manually flex the X axis cbeam a little if I lifted up on it in the middle of the cbeam. These brushless chinese spindles are pretty heavy.
     
  3. Anthony Bolgar

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    My spindle is 1.5kW, so I will see. If the deflection is too much I will reinforce the cBeam with a steel angle iron on the back side through bolted to the cbeam. May do that right from the start, can not hurt to be stiffer.
     
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    Knowing what I do now, I would reinforce my machine if I was building a 1000mm wide Sphinx even if I was only using my 800w spindle. I thought about the angle iron approach also. I even thought about filling the inside structure of the cbeam with epoxy. This would eliminate quite a bit of the flex actually.
     
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    My other option would be to add a second cbeam to the back side and bolt em together. But I am leaning towards teh angle iron approach.
     
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    Yeah the only issue is that the X axis carriage wraps around the cbeam completely so you would have to add more spacers. It wpuld require some reworking of the design.
     
  7. Andreas Bockert

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    I have a 1x1m Sphinx. While I can't give you accurate deflection numbers I can offer some experiences. I'm using a Makita router (about 800w) and have never felt that I need more power. I think the rigidity of the machine is not enough to push the router to its limit. I have done some aluminum machining and never came anywhere close to 800w without the machine starting to act up.

    I guess what I'm saying is that on a Sphinx with a long X axis (or any C-beam construction I guess) going to 2.2kw is overkill. The only thing I'm missing with the Makita is to have the ability to lower RPMs and go slower.

    Anyhow, my $.02
     
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    I run a 800w spindle on my 1000mm axis. I do not believe that it causes any concern able amount of deflection. However, me being me, I've been thinking that I do want to do something. So here is what I am thinking about. Again, this is not a critical project at all in the long list of projects.

    Anyway, I would get a piece of 1000mm long and figure 1/4" or 3/8" thick cast plate, cut to size, drill holes, and attach it to the backside of the C Beam, obviously with most of the weight off the Z axis. That would make the C beam super strong, add some mass to it, and hopefully reduce deflection if any.
     

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