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Routy CNC Router (V-Slot Belt & Pinion)

Discussion in 'CNC Mills/Routers' started by Mark Carew, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Ryan James

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    There is no kit. You have to go through and order the parts individually. This makes it helpful in that you can order only certain portions as funds/time allow and build it up from there.

    Edit: I just went through and added everything from the BOM. Took about 10 minutes and that was because I had to answer a couple of work issues. The only items out of stock right now are the 8mm M5 Low Profile Screws and the Nut Block for the lead screw. You also have to find the Arduino Uno and gSheild somewhere else as they don't appear to be sold here. Should take long to get everything put together for an order.
     
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  2. Mark Carew

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    Hi Duesentrieb,
    Ryan is right in that its not so much a kit as it is a start that allows you to modify it from the way we built ours. However we are working towards making bundles (all the parts for a build in one place) so it makes it easier to buy if you are looking to build it the same or perhaps add more to the posted parts list of the build.
    At the moment the only bundle build that we have is for the C-Beam Actuator Bundle but we hope to have entire machines soon as well.
    Thank you
    Mark
     
  3. Ronald van Arkel

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    Ow come on, do you really expect me to get the Arduino and program it myself with GRBL 0.8/0.9, get a shield with 4 DR8825 drivers and adjusting it myself? You know that I want an out of the box product like they sell at Walmart. And what? I need a spindle too? The software doesn't install by itself? I need to get a CAM with great support and for free like inkscape.org+CAM plugin? I need to learn G-code, what? :cry:

    -Ronald o_O
     
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  5. Mark Carew

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    Just a tip,
    Ronald van Arkel of OpenBuilds Mexico is working up some really nice assembly manuals for complete OpenBuilds machines thy carry
    Keep an eye on these guys they are doing a great job
    http://openbuilds.com.mx/

    [​IMG]
     
  6. R_B

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    I read through MOST of these replies and I have watched the OX build videos.
    From what I can gather the routy formed the basis for the OX design, which is bigger, stronger, more recent and hopefully "better".
    Many more wheels, generally beefed up with larger section extrusions, etc.

    Howeverrrrrr ...I still like the idea of underslung motors.
    The OX looks good, at rest, but I imagine that once you start cutting and chips start flying the law of unintended consequences will chuck chips into those top rails, onto the belts. From there... at a guess they get imbedded into the back of the belt as they are "rollered in".

    So, as a question: Why was the underslung drive system abandoned for the OX ?
     
  7. Mark Carew

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    No reason other then design wise it would have to be built up taller.
    There is also the idea of adding plexi strips down the lengths of both sides of the OX to keep any debris out of the track. I do not have them on mine (I just vacuum out the machine when I am complete a cut and have not had a problem) but I have seen it done. (can't locate the build at the moment but if I do I will post it)
    Hope this helps
    Mark
     
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    Thanks Mark.
    I asked this again in the OX discussion, before seeing your reply here - sorry for the duplicates.

    Since then I found the Frog ...still looking through that one.
     
  9. Bruce Hahlbohm

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    i am looking into building a Routy as a beginner cnc to mainly learn off of and do small projects. With the eventual intention of building a large scale OX for some repetitive shop work fabbing roadcases. I am about to do an order but i have noticed that the G2 timing belts have been out of stock for a while now. Have they been discontinued in favor of the G3's ? Also i noticed that your belts are 5mm wide and with watching the videos and reading all over the forums i know that they were preferred to reduce the wear. Question is will a 6mm wide belt fit OK or will it destroy itself fairly rapidly?
     
  10. Jeremiah

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    I just check my v-slot @ about .21875 in. or 5.55625 mm.

    As a guess, as a beginner, of the subject... I might suggest, try a small Ox format, then up-size to 1000 mm, etc. or consider the new C-Beam, then make your own plates, etc. The only custom on Ox is the bottom 'Y' axis table support (dimension - 40 mm (2- 20mm v-slot)). Everything else is 500 mm, 750 mm, 1000 mm, etc. by your choosing.

    Either way, or otherwise, look closely enough at all builds, parts, etc. and you can avoid the requirement of custom plates, if that is helpful.

    As a secondary part supply of openbuild stuff, I have found http://www.smw3d.com a good source and variation of some things helpful.
     
  11. Bruce Hahlbohm

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    The C beam actually sounds like a good idea as a starter. My question is this is going to be a budget build to the extreme. Are Nema 17 84oz bipolar motors strong enough to drive this? I actually have like 15 of them laying around my shop. and in the interest of saying funds it would be great if they would work. Any thoughts?
     
  12. Rick 2.0

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    While it is entirely possible they will work, there is a big difference between working and working well. The C-Beam system is also not designed to accept the Nema 17s so you will also have to spend a fair amount on extra plates and couplers just to get it to work.
     
  13. Jeremiah

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    I mainly suggested going straight to the Ox or other to save making a second build. But, you may be able to make your own custom plates, etc. with the routy and just upgrade to Nema 23, a few extrusions, etc. when you have the chance, or even be fairly happy with it as is.
     
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  14. Bruce Hahlbohm

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    OK quick question now. I was planing on using the Synthetos gshield v5 as the driver. It claims 2.5 amps per winding but most nema 23's i see are 2.8. Is that minor increase in power going to fry out the gshield?
     
  15. Ronald van Arkel

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    No, you will also not have it set at 2.8A as that's the max. current of the motor per winding will take and thus totally not needed. Those drivers will do 1.5 to 1.75A continuously and your motors that requiere 2.8A will just need 1.2 to 1.4A @ 24vDC to have a good torque.

    -Ronald
     
  16. Bruce Hahlbohm

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    OK so the decision is to forego the nema17s I have and go with the 23s and do a c-beam build. Looking at it really tells me that would more than likely be a perfect size for what I need to do. Now just need to order the parts. I'm sure ill be back asking about feed rates and such once it is built. I've been looking into it but can't wrap my head around it right now. I'm sure it will make more sense once I get it running. Thanks for the input all!
     
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    what kind of electronics board to use for 4-5 axis in here ?
     
  18. Bruce Hahlbohm

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    In the OB store there are the cnc USB controllers. The mk2 is a 9 axis controller and the mk3/4 is a 4 axis controller
     
  19. Ronald van Arkel

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    I'm curious, why would some one put a 5 axis controller on a simple router like the Routy?

    -Ronald
     
  20. Bruce Hahlbohm

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    Possibly to have two control points for the gantry and the 5th I would think for rotation if trying to do small 3d carves. But that is just a guess
     
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    hi!! i just built my own belt and pinion cnc but the belt is giving me trouble since it loose after i run a few cycles and i don't know what to do to fix it, i just ran out of ideas
     
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    I am looking at building my first cnc router I noticed this machine was using a dremel tool can it handle a larger router? also I noticed it was using nema 17 I have saw some people using larger like nema 23 would they be better? also I had problems download the file about the rack and pinion file and what would be a good program to open that with thanks any help is much appreciated.
     
  23. Ryan James

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    If you're wanting to go bigger, you'll want to look at the Ox. It's designed for the larger motors and spindle.
     
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    I was looking at the ox design but my concern with that would be the custom plates for the gantry
     
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    You can get some from a few people around here, depending on where you are located (cut shipping time and cost). Most have the 'standard' custom plates while some implemented some of the ideas discussed in the forums here at OpenBuild ... for more 'custom' custom plates. Frequently mentioned are Rober Hummel in Canada, Chris Laidlaw out west (US), etc.
     
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    thanks friend for the answer,
    another question, can I change the cutting tool?
    I have a more powerful 1075w Quick Tools that Dremen of power might use in your machine?
    thanks
     
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    I am actually using a Ryobi router on my OX build. I don't really see a problem with changing the spindle. Just make sure that once you have designed the mount, that it is sturdy.
     
  28. Ronald van Arkel

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    And like I said in another topic, add 2 wheels to the Z axis to use a total of 6; small price for a good upgrade ;).

    -Ronald
     
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    friend sorry I was wrong in the commentary, it was another project.
    Sorry for the inconvenience

    as suggested in the parts list could include purchase link, people like me No ideas nothing is difficult to know if we buy the right part, this was a point to consider when choosing my project,

    Congratulations on your project looks great!
     
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    Anyone have STEP or IGS or STL files for this build?
     

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