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Discussion in 'General Talk' started by Stan Tomlinson, Feb 2, 2025 at 5:49 PM.

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  1. Stan Tomlinson

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    Bought and built a mini-mill in December 2024.
    Have been using it to CNC aluminum a bunch since then.

    Today, accidentally jogged the Z motor hard into a part:
    pressed 10mm rather than .1mm;
    normal "I'm not happy" sounds came from mini-mill.
    The X32 and/or 24v supply stopped working thereafter.

    Symptoms:
    none of the motors engage
    no red warning lights are illuminated on the X32
    the 24v supply (a Meanwell from OpenBuilds) flashes when turned on
    the on/off indicator near the power switch generally does not illuminate
    sometimes flashes about every second when 24v supply is turned on
    the LED lights around the router generally do not turn on
    they sometimes flash on power up and down
    if the X32 is unplugged from the 24v supply the LED lights do turn on
    the X32 is illuminated (through the USB power?) and communicates with CONTROL
    the X32 is not illuminated when USB is disconnected
    CONTROL and the X32 can establish communications after a disconnect

    Things tried:
    power cycling
    pressing reset (the "motors engaged" indicator goes off while button pressed)
    unplugging Z motor (no change)
    resetting grbl on CONTROL
    letting things sit for 30 minutes and retrying everything
    None of these things have had any apparent effect

    Not tried:
    disconnecting all non-power wires from X32
    opening 24v power supply and cleaning inside
    opening X32 and cleaning inside

    Anybody have any thoughts?

    Thanks.

    Stan
     
  2. Peter Van Der Walt

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    Happens so often that its almost impossible to be the cause of the issues. Motor just stalls.

    Meanwell PSU flashes that pattern when encountering a dead short on the DC side

    Any chance an Aluminum chip found its way into BlackBox causing a short on the PCB? Vibrations from the stall may have shaked the chips around causing the timing to line up
     
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  3. Stan Tomlinson

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    Thanks for your reply!

    An aluminum chip in the electronics is my suspicion too -- and the shaking is a good possibility.
    Since I submitted above, it started working again...then stopped...then started.

    I have taken the electronics off the unit, have cleaned them, and am moving them outside an enclosure.
    Will let you know how things go.

    Stan

    P.S. -- learned early on to wrap all connectors in electrical tape!
     
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    Sounds all the more like a chip.

    Here to hoping there was no damage, just a temporary short, glad its working again!

    Regular visual inspection is good too, terminals can rattle loose, if the wire pulls out of terminal, but hidden under tape, might also have some disadvantage. Trying to find the loose wire etc
    Also, if taped as a bundle, the loose cable can even easier reach the nearby terminals too :)
     
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    It is back up and milling!

    I did not find chips inside the X32, but cleaned it anyways. I now suspect that one of the connectors or limit switches was intermittently shorting. There were a couple with quite a bit of aluminum. Rewrapped the limit switches a bit tighter.

    As I said, I moved the electronics outside the enclosure where there shouldn't be any chips. They were on the back stack of the mill, up and facing away. Previously, I could unplug the mill and carry it to a new location -- now there's a bunch of wires to disconnect -- oh well. Note that I extended the back stack to a 500mm to do that (and raise the mill-head a bit).

    20250204_134740.jpg
    That's an OpenBuilds enclosure, with plywood on the outside.

    20250204_134836.jpg
    Also, you can see I also extended the X axis. I only needed a small bit more room, but the 500mm was the next step. Also added limit switches on both ends of each axis.

    Hopefully won't have too many more issues with aluminum chips (or, when surfacing a curved plane, aluminum dust!).

    ---

    Two minor comments. If limit switches are not taped the mill randomly stops when the aluminum builds up, and, that doesn't take too long. I find that when securing wires in a connector, a pull-test on each wire helps locate loose wires.
     
    #5 Stan Tomlinson, Feb 4, 2025 at 5:59 PM
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